JP1 Remotes

chuliu · Joined: 04 Dec 2010 Posts: 443 Location: Hong Kong

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=13636

I created the device upgrade for shuttletec satella 2.
It is working with the exception that long pressing the power button is supposed to put the device in off mode, but it only puts the device in standby mode. A standby mode is done by pressing power button once.

Can someone please help?

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:08 am Post subject:

We will wait for Alan to tell us if slingbox has a way to hold the keys. I don't think so.

To do what you want, on a slingbox, we would need to create a special protocol that allows you to specify the number of repeats for each key.

Do you want to learn how, or do you want this done for you?

chuliu · Joined: 04 Dec 2010 Posts: 443 Location: Hong Kong

The Robman · Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:29 am Post subject:

I don't think Slingbox gives you any control over holding a button down. So what I think we need to do is decide which button is going to be POWER and which one is going to be STANDBY (if you need both functions), then in the protocol code, we will test for the POWER button and when it's detected, we set the minimum number of repeats to whatever is needed.
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chuliu · Joined: 04 Dec 2010 Posts: 443 Location: Hong Kong

I think most of the buttons are used now in the file I created. How about setting the power button to power off and star to standby?

chuliu · Joined: 04 Dec 2010 Posts: 443 Location: Hong Kong

I meant to map the standby to custom 17 button.

chuliu · Joined: 04 Dec 2010 Posts: 443 Location: Hong Kong

I am sorry but the first version of the file, I attempted to modify the protocol to make the repeat and hold function and it won't control anything. I have re-uploaded the file. This one is a working one.

Thanks.

I don't know if it makes any difference because you probably will start from scratch.

alanrichey · Expert Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA

Just to confirm, the Slingbox system does not support a long-press so the protocol tweak is the only solution (And I don't know how to do that Very Happy

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vickyg2003 · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:16 am Post subject:

Tools
- RemoteMaster (required for building a bin also has Protocol Builder capabilities)
- Alan Richey's modified no repeats protocols.ini modifications

- Ir Widget (optional - device to capture signals is really handy if you don't actually have the equipment your are trying to control)
- IrScope (optional – JP1 software to see a visual representation of the signal. Works directly with the Ir Widget, but also lets you see signals pasted from Pronto Hex or UEI learn)

Old Tools:
My experience with building protocols in RemoteMaster has been very frustrating. RemoteMaster doesn't tolerate trial and error as well as the old tools. If you have a version of Microsoft Excel that supports macros I would recommend using the old tools. . The old tools don't support slingbox directly and you would eventually have to transfer your work to RemoteMaster anyway

-JP1 or JP1.3 Remote with a Samsung processor and its cable. (This uses the same assembly language as the Slingbox, the old Comcast JP1.3 remotes are really rugged and inexpensive)
-Protocol Builder (optional – Excel based spreadsheet that can be used build a protocol.)
-IR (JP1 software that transfers data to the remote)

Modifying the protocol.
I see in another thread, that you have already created a simple signal using RemoteMaster, so you have that part down. The Nec1 signal is a pretty easy signal to create but does take some assembly code. The standard Nec executor is very complicated because it creates many types of signals. However, if you have alanrichies special protocols merged with your protocols.ini, you will see the NEC1 (No Repeats) protocol, which is a simplified executor with a minimum amount of assembly code.

The Robman · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:06 am Post subject:

Vicky, some of the code from the main NEC executor that is missing is needed here. As you know, the NEC1 signal doesn't hold like normal signals (ie, where you just repeat the main data string), this one sends out that "ditto" signal, so we'll need some of that code here, and that might be a bit hard for someone just starting out to do.

So, I think one of us should do it. Do u want to have first crack at it?

And chuliu, I tried looking up your device, is it the Satella Zero that you have, or do you really have an S2 version of this?
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B006D4MX2A
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vickyg2003 · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:07 am Post subject:

chuliu · Joined: 04 Dec 2010 Posts: 443 Location: Hong Kong

The Robman · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:53 pm Post subject:

Here's a file that you can load into Protocol Builder that shows how the NEC executor works:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=13648

And this file has some pseudo code that helps explain it:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=2095

I was wrong earlier about the executor needing some special logic for the ditto strings, I was thinking of the NECx1 protocol.

So anyway, I just wrote an executor that should send NEC1 and supports 2 device codes, and supports a long press of the RECORD button. I chose record because there is a called function that tests for it, and I checked that you weren't already using the button in your upgrade code.

Here's the PB file...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=13649

I haven't tested this upgrade is anyway as I figured you'd like to do that, and maybe make any corrections that are necessary.

You need to set the number of repeats that you need via the first fixed byte field, so you will need to treat that one as MSB even though the device codes are LSB.

Does that make sense? And Vicky, I hope you are following along too.
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chuliu · Joined: 04 Dec 2010 Posts: 443 Location: Hong Kong

Hi I just want to confirm how to do it.
I load the pb file into pb and copy the protocol decode and paste it into remotemaster. I check LSB for 2nd and 3rd device byte, as well as command byte. Then main device byte is where I set the repeat.

I ask because if I check nec 1 no repeat protocol, either device byte or command byte are msb( lsb unchecked)

Thanks.

The Robman · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:00 pm Post subject:

Truth is, I don't know how you do it in RM, the manual protocol stuff in RM has always been a mystery to me. So, I created it in KM, which has better support for manual protocols, and then imported the KM file into RM.

I have set the number of repeats of the POWER/RECORD button to 8, you can adjust this higher or lower by changing the first device code in RM.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=13650
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