JP1 Remotes

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

I bought a new Samsung set which supposedly supports discretes, though these are not on the factory remote. I guess they don't want anyone hurting themselves.

I have an MX-500 set up with macros for powering things on and off. But many years ago I had a 15-1994 and a JP1, and I remember that amazing little remote could be programmed with any code.

I notice the OARUSB04G comes with a cable, so I was wondering...

Is it possible/feasible to get the Samsung discretes, and then program them into an OARUSB04G using the factory cable? If I could do this, then I could learn the discretes into the MX-500, which is what I'd really like.

Also, if there's a better way to do this, I'm listening. But I really like the MX-500 because I can basically put an activity macro on all my device buttons -- I can long-press the BluRay button to watch movies, long-press the DVR button to watch TV, etc. It would be nice if my power macros had discretes for the new TV.

vickyg2003 · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Discretes on OARUSB04G?

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

To add to Vicky's reply, yes the OARUSB04G can be used to teach Samsung discretes to another remote. You would do this by manually entering EFCs using the 994 command. The OARUSB04G connects to a computer with a USB cable, but we can't use this cable to program the remote. On the other hand, UEI will program it via www.simpleset.com.

As Vicky says, many UEI remotes can be programmed with the 994 command. If you don't still have your remote from 10 years ago, perhaps you already own a cable remote made by UEI, e.g. Comcast, Cox, etc.

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

Well, I already have the MX-500, so this may be the cheapest way for me to generate the learnable discretes that didn't come on my Samsung remote.

If I understand and remember correctly, once you pick a protocol for a device all the buttons on that device are simply different three-digit values encoded in that same protocol.

What you appear to be saying here is that after you assign a protocol to a device on the remote, there's a button sequence (with 994 in it) that will generate any requested value even if that particular value isn't already assigned to a button. I vaguely remember this capability from my old 15-1994. Now I wish I still had that old thing. So if I get the code values for the discretes I want, I should be able to output them by just keying them in on a device that's been assigned as a Samsung TV. Do I have this right?

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

Yes, that's correct. However, remotes sold within the last few years use a 5 digit EFC instead of 3. In the case of Samsung TVs, the 5 digits are of the form 00XYZ, where XYZ is the old 3 digit EFC. Other protocol executors (especially combo executors) need all 5 digits of information.

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

So the obvious question then -- this OARUSB04G definitely supports these EFC codes?

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

Well, this remote is not exactly the same as other OFA remotes. Some of the sequences seem a little different. I've only been able to access extended codes on the TV device. Other devices aren't working the same, or maybe not at all. I haven't seen any codes assigned from the DVD device. I can't even map any of the regular codes to a button on that device.

Does Radio Shack carry any current JP1 models?

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

I don't have access to one of these at the moment, but in general any 9XX command needs a slightly different sequence. For example, going from memory, after pressing setup and getting 2 blinks, one needs to press the desired device button before entering 9XX. Typically pressing setup puts the remote into TV mode, and you'll see the TV button blink. So you need to change the device mode to wherever you want to put the keymove.

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

Does anyone know where I can find a list of the current model remotes with JP1 connectivity and/or at least the EFC mapping capabilities?

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

I bought the RCRP05BR. But if anyone can explain how to make heads or tails out of this other thing I would still appreciate it.

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

vickyg2003 · Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject:

cpurick · Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 22

Okay, I got the RCRP05BR to work. It doesn't have the 2467 codes for my Yamaha receiver, but I already have a Yamaha remote with discretes for that.

Everything else worked with the RCA remote.

I see a JP1 connector in this thing. What kind of cable do I need to load the RCRP05BR via USB, and where would I get one? Do you think someone would trade me a cable for the OARUSB04G?