Help with Sony RM-Y809

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:09 pm

I'm trying to get my devices and such all set up while waiting on my JP1 parts, and I am really, really lost. Does anyone have a working setup for one of these using multiple devices and macros? I don't care what devices, I just learn better by example than explaination.

So far, here are my sticking points.

How do I set which key is the shift key?
How do I make one device key carry over all the devices without using keymove? I'm using the stock eeprom.
Can a macro be launched during a device switch? i.e. I choose shift-2 and it switches the receiver to DVD, changes sound field, x10s lights, then then the buttons work the dvd player, things like that.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:13 pm

a few questions...

1) what type of device is an RM-Y809 (eg, TV, VCR, etc)
2) which One For All / Radio Shack remote are you using?

Without that basic info, we really can't help you.

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:40 pm

A RM-Y809 is a remote. It is the remote that comes with a Sony Sat-T60. It is basically a URC-9020B00.

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:46 pm

Isn't the Sat-T60 really a DirecTivo box? Is the RM-Y809 a JP1 enabled remote? Does IR.exe recognize it?

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:58 pm

From my understanding, it is a JP1 capable remote. I have wired up the header, waiting on the cable to arrive. Just trying to get as much legwork done as I can before the cable gets here. Here is the thread I'm basing my information on. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/sh ... did=101136 .

Since I haven't changed out the eeprom, I can't do key moves or toadtogs, and since I don't yet fully understand what they are, I'm waiting to see what real world limitations I have before I do that.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:48 pm

Most of the things you seem to want require the extender software to be installed in your remote. You can get that from
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files ... DirecTivo/

I hope documentation is included because most of the JP1 experts here know nothing about your model remote. Obviously the author of that extender (and of the tivo post you mentioned) knows incredibly much about that remote. Some of your questions may need answers from him.

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:51 pm

OK, you might have to bear with us here because the guy who developed the JP1 stuff for this remote (ie, Hal aka "mtakahar") hasn't been around for a while.

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:01 pm

I don't really need specifics to that particular remote, more kinda looking for an example config so I can understand what I'm doing better. I have loaded 2 of my devices already into IR, but I don't know how to select which button is for shift.

Is it possible to build a device using your own IR codes that you have learned from different remotes? Since I know I can't keymove, can I just build all the keys I want into it's own device? The more I read, the more I get confused.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:20 pm

Juppers wrote:I don't really need specifics to that particular remote,

I am not sure which of the basic principles apply to this model. Most of those things are the same across most models. But a few models are strange and I'm worried this might be one of them.

Juppers wrote: I don't know how to select which button is for shift.

If you have loaded an extender that lets you pick the shift key and IR.EXE finds the RDF associated with that extender, then a choice for the shift key appears in the "Other settings" side of the General Tab in IR.EXE.

Without an extender you can't change the button for shift. On most models there is a button that you use a long press of to start a programming action. That same button is shift. You do a short press and release of that button before any other button to shift that other button (two short presses of that button are required to shift a digit).

Juppers wrote: Is it possible to build a device using your own IR codes that you have learned from different remotes?

Learned to what? Is this a learning remote? You can see the decode of any signals you have on IR's learned signals tab and use that decode info to build the upgrade.

Juppers wrote: Since I know I can't keymove,

Why not?

Juppers wrote: can I just build all the keys I want into it's own device?

It sounds like you want to use the Device combiner protocol in KM.

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:40 pm

johnsfine wrote:If you have loaded an extender that lets you pick the shift key and IR.EXE finds the RDF associated with that extender, then a choice for the shift key appears in the "Other settings" side of the General Tab in IR.EXE.

It asks for shift button keycode, but I don't know what buttons are what keycode.

Juppers wrote: Is it possible to build a device using your own IR codes that you have learned from different remotes?

johnsfine wrote:Learned to what? Is this a learning remote? You can see the decode of any signals you have on IR's learned signals tab and use that decode info to build the upgrade.

This remote can learn, but not with the extender code. I have everything in CCF from my Marantz config. Since I can't use keymoves with the extender code because of memory constraints unless I replace the eeprom with a 2k one. I guess the device combiner is what I am trying to descripe if it can take codes from multiple devices and put them together as a single device.

Juppers wrote: can I just build all the keys I want into it's own device?

It sounds like you want to use the Device combiner protocol in KM.[/quote]

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:42 pm

A little update. IR does recognize the remote, and can read it. I haven't gotten the extender to work yet though. I put in 2 devices, load the extender, but when I try to activate it, it blonks twice instead of 4 times. Any ideas?

mtakahar · Post by **mtakahar** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:20 pm

Did you by any chance changed order of the upgrades? The extender activation upgrade (TV/1800) must be the first one on the list. (This is because this remote has only several bytes of the upgrade area and the TV/1800 upgrade includes dummy bytes that cover the first part of the learned signal area.)

You can also try the unmodified extender image and see if it gives 4 blinks.

As for learning (for the purpose of decoding signals), you can use this remote after the "0981" reset (hold down both TiVo and TV power until the LED stays lit, then press 0981). Just make sure to put the non-extender RDF where IR.exe can see it.

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:34 pm

The extender didn't have a tv/1800 in it. If I load a blank extender in IR and write it, hitting tv power only gives one blink. As for codes, I converted my marantz CCF and have been built a device combiner protocol and individual device upgrades using that protocol. So far I have it working my HDVR2 and DVD player, and able to switch the input on the receiver between the 2. I can hardly wait til I can figure out this extender thing and start having macros and more than 2 devices to play with.

mtakahar · Post by **mtakahar** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:48 pm

Juppers wrote:The extender didn't have a tv/1800 in it.

This would indicate that IR.exe is not seeing correct RDF. Which RDF are you using?

Juppers · Post by **Juppers** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:08 am

Ok, I found that mistake. From IR I was choosing new, and not loading the extender.txt file. Somehow, mute is the shift button, and none of the devices seem to be listening. I load the extender.txt in IR, add my protocol and devices, set then up on the general tab, write to the remote. 2 blinks, hit mute, 4 blinks, then a big bunch of nothing. How would I move the shift button to sat power, and any other idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.