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JVC RM-C1900S
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:27 am
by probono
The codes of my JVC RM-C1900S are as shown below. How do I know which setup code on the OFA remote really sends these most closely? Using automatic search, I have found a code that appears to work but for example sends a different code for "AV" (original code: protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 26), JP1 remote sends something that the TV set also reacts to but in a different way (protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 19). I could probably overwrite that button using an upgrade file, a keymove, and/or a learned code, but I would assume there must be an easier way?
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protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 28 # mute
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 23 # power
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 33 # 1
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 34 # 2
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 35 # 3
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 36 # 4
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 37 # 5
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 38 # 6
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 39 # 7
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 40 # 8
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 41 # 9
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 4 # i
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 32 # 0
protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 26 # AV
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 60 # red
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 61 # green
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 62 # yellow
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 63 # blue
protocol = JVC, device = 67, obc = 16 # TV
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 122 # menu
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 19 # top_menu
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 230 # back
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 31 # vol-
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 30 # vol+
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 24 # p-
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 25 # p+
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 91 # left
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 124 # up
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 90 # right
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 123 # down
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 10 # OK
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 17 # func1
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 9 # rew
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 4 # play
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 48 # ffwd
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 2 # func2
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 50 # rec
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 21 # stop
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 6 # pause
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 147 # zoom
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 66 # func3
protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 96 # func4
protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 97 # func5
Note that there are different devices used on this OEM remote. Can this even be replicated with just one set up code on the OFA remotes?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:47 am
by 3FG
You're supposed to fill out the template (See announcements at the top of this sub forum). But I'll assume that you're working with a URC-2981.
The first thing to notice is that this is the JVC IR protocol, but with mulitple device numbers. That's a clue that you should be looking for a Combo executor. Using the Lookup Tool (link at the top of the page) and searching on JVC protocols, we see that some remotes have a simple JVC executor, and nearly all newer remotes have an executor called JVC Combo.
The URC-2981 is a new remote and it isn't included in the Lookup Tool, so that makes finding the candidate setup codes more difficult. But since I worked with you on making the RDF file, I know that PID 0098 has the following:
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TV 0653, 1653, 1818, 2118
Cable 1901
Audio 1374
So you could try those, with the TV setup codes being the most likely to succeed.
Since you have the decodes of all functions, there are two other ways of proceeding, and most JP1 folks would use one of these.
1) Keymoves. If you have a setup code that is almost correct, and only a couple of functions need to be added or revised, you can use RMIR, select JVC Combo as the executor on the Devices Tab, and enter the device and OBC numbers. RM will calculate the corresponding EFCs, and you can then add these to the Keymove tab of RMIR. Or you could enter the EFCs manually with the 994 command.
2) Most user will just make an upgrade. Enter the learned device numbers, OBCs, and function names on the Devices Tab. You can do an entire column by pasting it into RM. From your post above, I copied the code section into Notepad+ as a text editor, which can select columns of text. Of course if you've learned the signals and have them in the Learned Signal Tab, the numbers are already parsed into columns. Then assign the buttons. When I first started using JP1, I though this seemed in some sense wasteful, since a nearly correct setup code already existed. So I'd use keymoves. Over time, I've joined the majority, and just make an upgrade. It also allows you to give back to the community by posting your upgrade. Then folks without a learning remote have access to working signals.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:17 pm
by probono
Thanks 3FG. I was using setup code 0653 and will now try the others. Sorry for not posting in the right format, will promise to do so next time. Your guesses were all correct.
I am still very new to all of this so please forgive my slowness. Will experiment with all ways you described and post the results.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:43 pm
by probono
Trying the upgrade route first, I entered under "Setup" Setup Code 7777, Protocol JVC Combo, and under "Functions":
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mute 62210 244 28 3 3F C7
power 62418 122 23 3 3F 17
1 62398 217 33 3 3F 7B
2 62334 215 34 3 3F BB
3 62462 219 35 3 3F 3B
4 62238 212 36 3 3F DB
5 62366 216 37 3 3F 5B
6 62302 214 38 3 3F 9B
7 62430 218 39 3 3F 1B
8 62254 085 40 3 3F EB
9 62382 089 41 3 3F 6B
i 62234 180 4 3 3F DF
0 62270 213 32 3 3F FB
AV 29282 247 26 15 0F A7
red 04870 020 60 35 3B C3
green 04998 024 61 35 3B 43
yellow 04934 022 62 35 3B 83
blue 05062 026 63 35 3B 03
TV 58162 117 16 67 3D F7
menu 62308 007 122 3 3F A1
top_menu 05106 123 19 35 3B 37
back 62301 206 230 3 3F 98
vol- 62402 250 31 3 3F 07
vol+ 62274 246 30 3 3F 87
p- 62242 245 24 3 3F E7
p+ 62370 249 25 3 3F 67
left 62432 235 91 3 3F 25
up 62212 004 124 3 3F C1
right 62304 231 90 3 3F A5
down 62436 011 123 3 3F 21
OK 62314 055 10 3 3F AF
func1 05042 121 17 35 3B 77
rew 05034 057 9 35 3B 6F
play 04890 180 4 35 3B DF
ffwd 04918 149 48 35 3B F3
func2 04986 183 2 35 3B BF
rec 04982 151 50 35 3B B3
stop 05010 120 21 35 3B 57
pause 04954 182 6 35 3B 9F
zoom 62451 131 147 3 3F 36
func3 62328 167 66 3 3F BD
func4 29244 197 96 15 0F F9
func5 29372 201 97 15 0F 79
Under Buttons, I assigned each button to a function.
Under Layout, Key Map, and Output I did not touch anything.
Under Output, I get
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Upgrade Code2 = 1E 61 (TV/7777) Und (RM v2.02 Beta 1.5w)
00 98 3E 76 FA BF 3F 87 3F 07 3F C7 3F 67 3F E7
3F 17 0F A7 3F A1 3F C1 3F 21 3F 25 3F A5 3F AF
3B 57 3B B3 3B C3 3B 43 3B 83 3B 03 3F 98
KeyMoves
22 F0 05 16 61 00 13 AA«rew»¦
23 F0 05 16 61 00 13 1A«play»¦
24 F0 05 16 61 00 13 5A«pause»¦
25 F0 05 16 61 00 13 36«ffwd»
End
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Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 98 (S3F80) JVC Combo (RM v2.02 Beta 1.5w)
43 8B 02 8B 19 CC D9 80 20 08 08 01 07 00 F4 01
07 03 03 73 50 10 7C 08 2A 00 03 00 59 8C 8D 01
46
End
Under General, I assigned setup code 7777 to button AUX.
But when I upload this and press AUX and then some buttons, then the remote sends totally different codes, like
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protocol = MCE, device = 4, subdevice = 15, obc = 1, misc = T=1
protocol = MCE, device = 4, subdevice = 15, obc = 2, misc = T=0
protocol = MCE, device = 4, subdevice = 15, obc = 3, misc = T=1
Could it be that the URC-2981 RDF isn't working properly, or am I doing something wrong?
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:09 pm
by probono
Now trying the keymove route.
From the Device Upgrade Editor, Functions tab I can see that the EFC5 code for Device 3, OBC 26 is 29282. Knowing this information, it was easy to set up a keymove using the "Key Moves" tab and entering TV, Setup Code 0653, EFC-5 29282. Now the AV button on the OFA remote behaves like the button on the OEM remote. This mission is accomplished, but I am still interested in getting the upgrade route to work as well.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:15 pm
by mdavej
Post your files. Looks like you either picked the wrong device type in General or have VPT turned on.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:22 pm
by probono
Which files? Assuming that you mean the jvc.rmdu that I created:
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Remote.name=URC 11-2981 R00
Remote.signature=329304
SegmentFlags=255
DeviceType=TV
DeviceIndex=0
SetupCode=7777
Protocol=00 98
Protocol.name=JVC Combo
FixedData=
Function.0.name=mute
Function.0.hex=3F C7
Function.1.name=power
Function.1.hex=3F 17
Function.2.name=1
...
As "Device Type" I had selected "TV". Do you mean "Volume Punch Through" with "VPT"? Yes, I have enabled that, is it a problem? Disabling it now... Also with all Punch Throughs disabled the situation does not change.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:55 pm
by mdavej
RMDU and RMIR (or IR). And by post, I mean upload to the diag area of the file section, not post the text.
Volume Punch Thru remaps the vol keys, giving you unexpected results if you have any commands on those keys. Same goes for channel lock, if your remote has that.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:07 pm
by probono
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:33 pm
by 3FG
You have to assign the setup code to some device on the General tab. The remote has no way to know that you want to use that upgrade
Note that your remote (a JP1.4) is sufficiently new that a 7777 setup code is valid. Many older remotes are limited to 2047, and most JP1.3 remotes are limited to 4095. So 7777 may confuse some of us a bit.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:53 pm
by probono
Interesting. I had assigned AUX in the General tab to TV, 7777, then uploaded. But when I download, the code is reset to Cable, 1272...
Now I changed the upgrade to use TV, 1111 and assigned that to AUX to in the General tab. Now it is no longer changed when being up- and downloaded, and voila, everything is working! (Tested it also with 4095, works too. So maybe mine has a limit as well.)
Thanks so much for your help!
