JP1 Remotes

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1. Device: Sony Bravia KDL-32EX653
2. Type of device: TV
3. Year: 2012
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: RCA RCRP05BR (Atlas 1056B01/OFA 7950/Insignia 67100)
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? YES
6. Still have original remote? NO
7. Checked the file section? YES
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? NO
9. Partially working setup code? NO
10. Learning remote question? YES
11. Have you tried the JP1 Lookup Tool? YES

Hi
An acquaintance, who lives a long way away, does not have the original remote for her TV, LCD/Internet model SONY BRAVIA KDL-32EX653 so I would like to set up one of my JP1 remotes so I can teach, to another learning remote, the right commands for that Tv.

I have the following JP1 remotes:-
RCA RCRP05BR,
Atlas 1056B01,
OFA 7950,
Insignia 67100

- so, ideally, I think I need an upgrade for the Sony TV.

The Tv seems to be a quite popular model but I am afraid I failed to find an upgrade in the file section or lookup and would be grateful for advice.

I am quite new to JP1 and have not recently had do do much because all my gadgets are still under perfect control

With a Harmony using the commands from the logitech database, I have already used teaching to get commands for the Sony Tv and to setup a TV device on a universal remote Sony RMVLZ620T which I will send to her. (Out of the box the RMVLZ620T is supposed to have Sony Tv commands present on its TV device but I can't test them, and am not sure if they would be complete for the latest LCD/Internet Tvs like KDL-32EX653)

The problem remains that I cannot test whether the learned commands all work, so thought it would be another chance of getting it right if I were to send her a spare Atlas (non-learning) 1056B01 with a JPI upgrade for the Sony Tv Device installed as a backup, and also perhaps do a second Sony Tv device on the RMVLZ620T learned from the JP1 upgrade, as another alternative if the Harmony teaching did not work on it.

As well or instead, with a Harmony using the commands from the logitech database, I could try from scratch to make an upgrade for the Tv, SONY BRAVIA KDL-32EX653, because I did that for one or two of our own boxes before, with much help here. Then I could check if the codes look as if they have consecutive numbers for similar commands etc. Or I may be able to complete a partial upgrade by teaching with the Harmony. For these projects I think I need advice as to what protocol to use, or what existing JP1 upgrade would already have the right setup to learn the Bravia Tv commands from Harmony properly. Is that right and what to do about that, please?

Any comments or advice would be appreciated.

Regards
Chris

[mdavej]

Sony codes rarely change. I'd be shocked if THIS upgrade wasn't pretty much an exact match.

You'll also get the basic functions with built-in code TV 0810 on your RCA or most any one-for-all.

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Thanks very much!

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In the diagnosis area I have posted the resulting Atlas Upgrade for Sony LCD Internet TV BRAVIA KDL-32EX653:-
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=11543

- because I haven't been able to test it because I don't have the TV or its original remote.

It was done using the upgrade mentioned by mdavej, together with additional learned commands to complete it, from Logitech's Harmony database, for someone who does not have the original remote either, and who lives far away.

I would like to discover which commands are redundant when the Tv does not use them, and also please see the two learned commands, commented with * in the functions tab, which have the unusual 119 'device numbers'.

Regards
Chris

[mdavej]

The 119 codes are probably correct. They are very common on sony tv's.

You'll have to educate me on UK tv's. Is Teletext the same as what we call closed captions in the US? If so you can probably delete the CC command. Also do your digital channels not use a dot or dash to delimit the sub-channel. If so, you can delete DOT.

The other unused ones are probably ok to delete.

Did you learn all the harmony commands and confirm they match? If not, I would do that to be safe.

I would also check the manual for the TV and see what commands are on the original remote.

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Chris,
Many Sony codes, especially those introduced before 2010 or so, are listed at http://www.hifi-remote.com/sony/
That's how we can be sure that 119 is a valid device number.

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Dave,

Thanks I see #119 is said to be for newer devices, along with 151 and, in the list to which you pointed, #119 is for 'Digital Tuner, discrete' - which seems to be the same command I learned from Harmony and which had #119. It is described in the Sony Tv manual as a 'Digital Input', while in practice, i.e. in the learns from the harmony, 'Analog Input' for some reason seems to use #1. (the other #119 command was PIP)

All the discrete inputs are provided and think they can also be used from the Tv's Home menu by selecting icons, although the Bravia ('CE'?) thingy is said to be able to change inputs automatically. Otherwise operation seems very complicated for simple minds and those used to Panasonic gadgets!

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