JP1 Remotes

jetstar52 · Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 177 Location: Sacramento, CA

I've uploaded an .ict file with learns from an Onkyo UP-A1 iPod dock. I'm trying to make an upgrade for a 15-100 and a 10820n. IRscope recognizes the signals as NEC1-f16 and NEC2-f16, but I can't seem to get either KM or RM to make a working upgrade file. I see that user pjigar tried to make an upgrade a few years back, and eferz posted an RM file, but that file didn't work.

Thanks in advance for any help. The .ict file is:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=10826
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3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

Here's a RMDU file for the UP-A1. You'll need to assign some of the buttons.

The protocol executor I used is NEC1-f16 3Fixed, because all of the signals are device 210.30 with the first OBC = 72. You can see that in IRScope. Only OBC2 varies. Note that this executor has 210.30 as the default, because it is primarily useful with the Onkyo receivers.

If you really need the NEC2 signals (which would repeat while just holding rather than tapping the buttons), we'll need to make a custom executor. That's not too hard.

jetstar52 · Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 177 Location: Sacramento, CA

Thanks, but uploading the protocol and device upgrade causes my remote to reset with any keypress. Here's the IR file:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=10828
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3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

It works fine with an unextended remote, and the protocol executor has no custom code in it (it just changes the number of fixed bytes). So I doubt that the upgrade is causing the resets.

When I try loading your diag.ir file into either IR or RMIR, both tell me that the upgrade region of memory has overflowed, and asks if I want to relocate some of the upgrades elsewhere. I don't know how either program deals with extenders, but it seem to me that moving the upgrades may overwrite some extender code. I don't know. But it prompted me to look to see if there are any non-used upgrades in the IR file.

Possibly Misc Audio 1011, 1111 and VCR 1533, 2002 are unused? If they are, removing them will save around 200 bytes. Might help.

eferz · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:19 pm Post subject:

jetstar52 · Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 177 Location: Sacramento, CA

3FG:
I think you're right. I loaded your upgrade into an unextended 15-133, and everything worked. Thanks very much for your help. I'll try to see what's going on with the 15-100.

How did you come up with the EFC values? They're different from the IRscope readings.

eferz:
Yes, the Onkyo TX-NR807 (2 of 2) is the one I tried. I'll test the modified version in a 15-133 to see if it works.
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eferz · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject:

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

eferz,
I think you're the first person to try the f16 3 Fixed using a HCS08. There is an error in protocols.ini, which leads to all three fixed data bytes being sent with zero bits per byte. Please change:
Code.HCS08=20 15 23 46 31 C7 45 00 08 01 21 01 11 01 21 03 44 D2 DC 11 94 08 CA CC FF 5F
to
Code.HCS08=20 15 23 46 31 C7 45 08 08 01 21 01 11 01 21 03 44 D2 DC 11 94 08 CA CC FF 5F

If we can get 3 Fixed to work, it will save a lot of space (roughly 3 bytes per function used in the remote.)

eferz · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject:

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

Well, now that you point it out, the executor I've called NEC1-f16 3Fixed does in fact shoot NEC2. We actually need a more complicated executor to send the dittos used by NEC1.

I think it is probably OK to just rename the executor. It seems like most equipment these days is happy with either format. We could also consider a combo executor which could shoot either NEC1 or NEC2, but of course that will need two command bytes.

jetstar52, does the 3Fixed executor work for all your buttons?

jetstar52 · Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 177 Location: Sacramento, CA

eferz · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:07 am Post subject:

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

I think the display of the Misc column is set in this case by DecodeIR.dll. jetstar52, make sure you have version 2.43 in your IRScope directory.

jetstar52 · Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 177 Location: Sacramento, CA

Okay, updated my DecodeIR, and now IRscope gives me the OBC2 values. Edited the HCS08 protocol, and now I have an upgrade for the 10820n.

You guys are geniuses, and incredibly generous. Thanks once again.
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3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

Earl,
I was wrong; the IR engine can send dittos without any special executor code. So the below protocols.ini entry can send either NEC1 or NEC2, selectable by the user. If you have time, please check the HCS08 functionality.