JP1 Remotes

Hi,

I am new to JP1 programming.

I have a VisionQuest LVQ-26HLD. The remote broke and is not repairable. For the life of me, I cannot find this remote anywhere. Doing some searches online, I cam across someone who uploaded a .rmdu file for their VisionQuest LVQ-19HLD (they use a Radio Shack 15-2104 remote).

Discussion is here:
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12903

File is here:
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=9335

So assuming the LVQ-19HLD and LVQ-26HLD use the same remote, can I use the .rmdu file? Do I also need to buy the exact same remote as them (Radio Shack 15-2104 remote)? Is the rmdu file all I need to recreate the LVQ-19HLD remote?

Assuming the LVQ-19HLD and LVQ-26HLD use the same remote codes, you can use the file to load the code for the LVQ-19HLD into a JP1 compatible universal remote, using a compatible JP1 cable.

Have you read the JP1 wiki?
http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/

The Robman wrote:Assuming the LVQ-19HLD and LVQ-26HLD use the same remote codes, you can use the file to load the code for the LVQ-19HLD into a JP1 compatible universal remote, using a compatible JP1 cable.

Have you read the JP1 wiki?
http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/

I appreciate the reply. And yes, I have skimmed through the wiki, although its a lot to take in for a first timer.

So although the .rmdu file was created with Radio Shack 15-2104 remote in mind, I can use the .rmdu created file with any JP1 compatible remote? Am I better off using the 15-2104 or does it not matter. Really my goal is to get any remote working with my TV and then use my harmony remote to learn (harmony rmeote does not have my TV in its database).

czemel wrote:So although the .rmdu file was created with Radio Shack 15-2104 remote in mind, I can use the .rmdu created file with any JP1 compatible remote?

Yes, as long as you pick your remote model in RM.

Am I better off using the 15-2104

No

... or does it not matter.

It does matter. It won't work if it doesn't match your actual remote model. RMDU files can be created for any remote model and used on any other model, so long as you pick your model in RM. Picking the right remote model is one of the first steps in the tutorials, so you really should read over those again.

czemel wrote:Am I better off using the 15-2104 or does it not matter.

It doesn't matter. What DOES matter is that you get a JP1 cable that will work with the remote that you select. The platform changed a few years back. Older JP1 "EEPROM" remotes require an older JP1 cable that isn't made any more. Newer JP1 remotes use a newer JP1.2/3 "Flash" cable. However, there is an adapter that can be used to connect older "EEPROM" remotes with a "Flash" cable.

There are also some remotes that support WAV upgrades, so you don't need a JP1 cable to program these remotes.

Here is a WAV upgradable remote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250922941955

If your ultimate goal is to get this code loaded into your Harmony, is it possible for another JP1/Harmony user to load the code into his Harmony and then share it with you over the internet?

This upgrade can be customized for any JP1 remote. All you need is a JP1 remote and an appropriate cable matched to the remote you choose. I checked to see if you could do this without a cable, but the chances of that are very slim.

The RDMU shows the signal to be a Nec1 0,249. That combination is built into a few European remotes, and only 1 remote available in the US. So if you happen to have access to an Atlas 3000, or one of thes European OneforAll URC-5725, URC-7555, URC-7950, URC-7940 , URC-7950 or URC-8350, you could do this without the cost of the cable.

Of course a WAV upgradable remote could be used to avoid the cost of the cable too.

The Robman wrote:. Older JP1 "EEPROM" remotes require an older JP1 cable that isn't made any more.

Isn't DIY still selling the USB JP1 EEPROM cable?

Although the Logitech database doesn't have the LVQ-26HLD it does have the LVQ-26HLA. I would reckon there is a 90% chance they use the same codes.

Have you not tried it ?

First of all. I want to thank everyone for taking the time to answer my question. I really appreciate the effort and quick replies.

vickyg2003 wrote:The RDMU shows the signal to be a Nec1 0,249. That combination is built into a few European remotes, and only 1 remote available in the US. So if you happen to have access to an Atlas 3000, or one of thes European OneforAll URC-5725, URC-7555, URC-7950, URC-7940 , URC-7950 or URC-8350, you could do this without the cost of the cable. Of course a WAV upgradable remote could be used to avoid the cost of the cable too.

I can purchase the URC-8350 vua ebay. So, if I buy that remote I can program it via wav (through my computer speakers I believe). Is this method reliable vs JP1? So I am assuming I simply load the .rmdu file into the program and it will create the .wav sounds byte all through the same software?

alanrichey wrote:Although the Logitech database doesn't have the LVQ-26HLD it does have the LVQ-26HLA. I would reckon there is a 90% chance they use the same codes.

Have you not tried it ?

Tried it and it doesn't work. The TV I have is a combo DVD and TV unit. That unit is just TV. Tried it anyways and none of the commands worked.

The Robman wrote:If your ultimate goal is to get this code loaded into your Harmony, is it possible for another JP1/Harmony user to load the code into his Harmony and then share it with you over the internet?

If this is possible, that would be amazing and would certainly be quick and easy! Not sure if you can share Harmony learned codes across users. I'll call logitech support and ask.

czemel wrote:I can purchase the URC-8350 vua ebay. So, if I buy that remote I can program it via wav (through my computer speakers I believe). Is this method reliable vs JP1? So I am assuming I simply load the .rmdu file into the program and it will create the .wav sounds byte all through the same software?

I'm not very familar with European remotes, so I don't know if its WAV upgradable although the RDF for this remote seems to indicate that it is. I was thinking that since it has a Nec1 0.249 built in, you should be able to use efc style keymoves to teach your harmony the new codes.

I have done a couple of WAV upgrades for the urc-8910, and they seem to work just fine, but I don't know how mature the URC-8350 support is. I do know that keymoves are pretty easy to work with, but I don't like to use them when I have the option of creating them in our software.

Where are you?

vickyg2003 wrote:Where are you?

I'm in Toronto, Canada. Actually talking with Logitech now to see if they can work with the .rmdu file.
Never mind my logitech support period is over. Also, there is no way for one user to learn on their harmoney and then transfer to me as per logitech.

I believe it is possible for Harmony users to share learned signals, despite what Logitech is telling you.

Logitech can't work with rmdu files, but you can convert the codes to pronto hex, email them to support and get them added to your account. I once had support load close to 700 codes for me. But word on the street is such a request takes about 5 weeks these days. And if your support period is over, then it will cost you.

You need to talk to a different person about sharing learns. I do it all the time. The person with support just calls or emails and says they want a copy of the learns from another user's account. But that's a moot point too since your free support has run out.

WAV upgradeable remotes are usually kind of bulky in order to house the modem. That 8350 just doesn't look big enough. The cheapest most plentiful JP1 remote in Canada is probably the Atlas from Shaw.

Luckily, if you have any other learning remote, I have a sure-fire but tedious solution for you. You can add your own pronto hex to harmony, one code at a time. See THIS post for the procedure. But, big picture, this is what you need to do.

1. Convert rmdu codes to pronto hex using MakeHex or similar tool
2. Add one command to your harmony by the linked procedure
3. Teach the command to your learning remote
4. Repeat 2 and 3 for every command
5. Teach all the commands from your learning remote back to your harmony

If you want to do a "proof of concept" test, here's the Pronto code for the POWER button.

0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AC 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689 0157 0056 0015 0E94

Rest of the codes are here:
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=10084

czemel wrote:Also, there is no way for one user to learn on their harmoney and then transfer to me as per logitech.

Rubbish If I logged onto your account and built the device by teaching my Harmony then you can download it to yours. I suspect Logitech assume people do not share accounts. Unfortunately, while I have a Harmony I don't have a JP1 remote. We need someone who has both.