JP1 Remotes

[kovacslajcsi]

1. Device: DENON AVR-2802
2. Type of device: Home theater receiver
3. Year:2003
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: URC-8206 / OneForAll Kameleon
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? YES
6. Still have original remote? NO
7. Checked the file section? YES, found a partially working code
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? YES, found a code table..
9. Partially working setup code? AUD:0004,0160,0272,0273,0274,0771,1360,1434,2279,2857 best:1460 but just the main buttons
10. Learning remote question? n/a
11. Have you tried the JP1 Lookup Tool? YES, the partially working setup codes where from the tool.

Hi,

I found a code at R/C, with all of the buttons of the original remote, but it is in Pronto format.


http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/codes/denon/avr-2802/page-1/

The code found here, in the file section is partially working. I upload them with IR.exe, the main functions are OK, but the OSD, and programing part of the receiver is unavailable without the missing buttons. (Only 20 commands are in the file, the original remote has 56 commands)

I'm an absolute beginner, it's my firt try with this type of remotes.

Thanks for any kind of help!

[vickyg2003]

The pronto hex is really easy to work with. You just add them as learns in IR and the codes are calculated for you.

Data shown in the grid
function, efc, 5-efc, dev, protocol, OBC

[kovacslajcsi]

Hi,

I need to connect the remote, then open IR, Learned signals-->Add-->device: AUD, key: The key on the remote, format-->Pronto --> then I copy the sequence form RemoteCentral, then OK, and i need to repeat this step for all of the keys?

then Upload it, and ready to use?

so simple?

[vickyg2003]

[kovacslajcsi]

Hi,

Sorry, but i have problems again.. What i did:

downloaded RM, assigned the RDF's, and opened IR, then Learned signals tab, copied the first pronto code (power button) from RemoteCentral, then OK button.

Now, there is a line in IR for the first button, the power button. Then i tried to copy the data to RM. On the first page I found my remote, URC-8206, device type: AMP. On the functons TAB i searched for the power button, and tried to import the data from IR, but i failed. I clicked into the EFC field, and entered 246, then hex: 87, but in IR, the value for the OBC filed is 225, and RM tells me, that the maximal value for this field is 127.

Why?

[3FG]

First, some basic information about how JP1 remotes work in relation to IR signals.

The IR signal for Power On for the AVR-2802 is Denon IR protocol, device 2, and function number 225. In JP1-speak, the function number is frequently called the OBC.

The remote sends IR signals using a protocol executor, which is just a subroutine in the microprocessor firmware. The subroutine is called with data. In JP1-speak, we refer to fixed data, which is the same for all functions, and some variable data, which we call Hex data. The EFC is an encoded representation of the Hex data, and generally unless you intend to manually program a remote, you should ignore and not use EFCs. Specifically, when you decode Pronto Hex data, you should only pay attention to the OBC, and ignore the EFC and Hex data.

In fact, showing an EFC or Hex data as part of a IR decode is a hangover from much simpler days, when UEI remotes could send Denon IR signals in only one way-- using the protocol executor that we call Denon. That executor takes one byte of Hex Data, and can only be used with one device number. These days, most people will need to use a different executor, which we call Denon Combo (Official). It uses 2 bytes of Hex data, and can specify a device number and OBC for each function.

That's the excecutor you need, since your receiver uses more than one device number.

Now for your particular problem, I guess that you didn't select a protocol executor on the Setup tab before entering the Functions tab. It is necessary to specify the executor first. However, once you have specified an executor, you only need to enter the OBC. RM will calculate the Hex data and associated EFC for you.

So:
In RM, on the Setup Tab, choose your remote, select a Device Type, and make up a Setup Code, e.g. 1560.
Select the Protocol (short for protocol executor) to be Denon Combo (Official). Don't use either Denon, which is limited to one device number, or Denon Combo, which is an executor that isn't built into your remote.

Now on the functions tab, enter device 2 and OBC 225. The EFCs and Hex data will be 01981, 209, and B8 78.

Now you can do the rest of the functions.

[vickyg2003]

[kovacslajcsi]

Hi,

today, i had some freetime, i tried what You wrote, but the remote does not work..

the file, for RM can be found here:

https://rapidshare.com/files/2612469817/Denon_AVR-2802.rmdu

I used the Denon Combo(Official) protocol.

When i test the buttons, with the new setup code, the remote works, emmits IR signals, just it does not work with my amplifier..

[vickyg2003]

Please upload your file to the diagnosis section in our File Section.
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Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.

[3FG]

Actually, we need both the rmdu file and the IR file, or if you're using RMIR, the rmir file. That way we can see everything.

Upload the the File Section, Diagnosis.

[kovacslajcsi]

Hi,

I uploaded the files to the file section.

Here are the links:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9659

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9660

[vickyg2003]

[kovacslajcsi]

Hi,

sorry, i was not at home, and my brother did not know the correct file name, it seems, he failed to find it..

Now i arrived to home, and downloaded the memory of the remote, this is what it is programmed for:


http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9661

[3FG]

THe IR file has two upgrades loaded:
1161 which is a Denon Combo Official upgrade
1599 which is a Manual Settings executor, but the corresponding executor isn't loaded. So there is no way it will work at present, because 1599 calls for a non-existant protocol executor.

Incidently, this information is trivial to see uing RMIR, and less obvious using IR.exe. I think RMIR is much easier to use.

[kovacslajcsi]

Hi,

I downloaded the RMIR, now i see, what You mean.. after setting it to denon combo (offcial), and uploading it to the remote, it works

All buttons, except 5 or 6 buttons, and one of them is the OSD on button.. I tried 3 times to convert it, but it is the same..

It seems, that on RC the pronto code is wrong for this buttons. But the main problem is solved, the remote is working.

Thanks!