JP1 Remotes

R2-M0 · Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 92

Direct link to v0.03 of the extender, just for reader convenience

http://hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9472

unclemiltie · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:36 am Post subject:

ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

I've checked Raw Data before and still see

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

My xshift-AUD and xshift-DVD macros run ok, so I think that much is fine. I'll have to test dev5 and dev6 again. They appeared to work last time I tried. Do you have a macro that also does all the set keys for those? If not, you'll get the result you're seeing now. Can you post your IR file?

ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

Today results are slightly different, still not what I expect. I hate when that happens. And totally baffled.

Today, both Xshift-macros go to the base devices (AUD and DVD). See 2 pictures in the zip file, and my IR file.

Do you have a widget to try this?
The top 2 macros must setup Panasonic devices. Not Yamaha(NEC...) nor the JVC gear.
Just change Xshift-Aud to shift-A, Xshift-dvd to shift-B. I used 1,2,3 to test. After I press shift-A or shift-B the signals for 1,2,3 I expect go out to correct Panasonic devices.

I just made macros on shift-TV to use dev6 keys, and xshift-TV to use DVR keys. Both send signals to the TV device. So it looks like shift-device and xshift-device can't be used. Except that Shift-AUD works great on dev4.
SHIFT-TV = Dev_dev6;Phantom9
XSHIFT-TV =Dev_DVR;Phantom9
Phantom9 gives all keysets to the Dev_device.

I've been trying to post this and upload the file for hours. I will upload as soon as I manage. So far I keep being kicked out... looks like it di upload earlier
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9474
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mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

I don't have a widget to check. The only strange thing I see so far is on the general tab you shift keycode = 88 and xshift keycode = 63. In my file those are 2 and 130, which I'm pretty certain are correct. Yours don't make sense to me.

R2-M0 · Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 92

Your "General Notes" block indicates that you expect the Shift key to be "On Demand" (the same change I made on my remote). On Demand = hex $35 or decimal 53, however, so I'm not sure where the 88 ($58) in your Shift Keycode value came from.

Similarly, your current XShift Keycode value is 63, or hex $3F. $3F is one of the few unused keycodes under this extender. I'm not at all sure from the "General Notes" which button you really intended to use for XShift.

So I think mdavej is right -- something's definitely screwy with your Shift and XShift keycode values. It may not be *the* problem, but it certainly looks like *a* problem, and would be a good thing to fix first.

ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

Shift button: Ever since my Xshift troubles, shifts are 2 and 130. Not strange numbers. So I have no idea why you see different numbers. I did use OnDemand before my xshift troubles, then reverted to default.

Xshifts: I found a cause of failure by being lazy. Got tired of pressing xshift, so I made a macro for all that switching from device to device. This one works perfectly while manually they do not. Also few of my xshift keymoves are reliable when put into a macro.
Dash=XSHIFT-AUD;1;2;SHIFT-AUD;1;2;AUD;1;2;XSHIFT-DVD;1;2;SHIFT-DVD;1;2;DVD;1;2
So I suppose it's me. Which leads to a question: what, if any, are the timing constraints on pressing shift?

EDIT:I was going to upload my IR file again and the evidence, then realized why you might see different shift. You're likely on v0.03, while I'm still on v0.02. I plan to do v0.03 today.
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unclemiltie · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:21 am Post subject:

In the default extender, Shift is $02 (the setup button) and Xshift is $82, which is a shift-shift. $82 is decimal 130.

you can, of course, change either of these in the general tab.

As for timing, there is no timing considerations for pressing xshift or shift for that matter. On keys pressed on the keypad, the remote loops through and if it gets a shift or xshift key it will set the shift mask and then go and wait for the next key, when the next key comes the shift mask is applied to that key, the shift mask is cleared and the shifted/xshifted key is processed.

On macros with Xshift or Shift keys in them, these are just treated as different key values, which are processed as any other key in a macro.
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ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

Using v0.3
Great news - FAV works as advertised.
Less great - no change in the xshift-device behavior - ok from macro, not ok from keyboard.
And, as before, if I replace xshifts by A and B it works fine.
If timing isn't an issue, then what might it be?
IR file and widget evidence:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9477
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unclemiltie · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject:

Liz

downloaded your file, using the V0.02 RDF that I still had lying around I found the Shift key is $02, the Xshift key is $81, which is shift-shift, you had mentioned that it was something different but I don't see that.

Try this. Map in the general tab Xshift to a real key instead of shift-shift and tell me what happens.
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ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

I already did that, and you didn't think it was ok
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=95535#95535
and here
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=95557#95557
see point 3

in my v0.02 file shift was $2, xshift was $82 not $81 Smile

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ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

Bill,
See my v0.03 file, uploaded above - the only change I made there is back to ALL for the LED, since I forgot to do it at the time of extinstal.

I misread what you asked for, sorry for that.
I changed xshift on general tab to use "List" button $28, left shift as "2".
So I'm running now with the LED patch=ALL, and the new xshift key.

Everytime I press List, we expect it to behave like XSHIFT.
1. For a while I thought that if I press AUD,List,AUD, few keys, it would work, but is not consistent.
2. For the most part, a sequence of List,AUD, some keys will alternate between signals to dev6 and AUD.
3. Likewise, most of the time a sequence of List,DVD, some keys alternates between signals to dev5 and DVD.
4. If I press AUD, and start over, it might be stuck on sending only AUD signals. The only way to break it is to send few signals by shift-AUD (dev4) or TV.
That is not what I would expect.

I need more time to see the pattern. Sometimes it's ok, sometimes is not.

I reread about alt-shift. Alt-shift in 8910 reads the same as here: