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Using IRScope

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:22 am
by alanrichey
Split from here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12314

Just tell me what you want in terms of ICT and I'll produce it

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:02 pm
by vickyg2003
I think the way Rob would prefer them would be if you created one big ICT file. I'd like a Summary Report too.

learned them all, and added a note to each line.
Then Grab all the lines and save as and give it a name like complete.
A summary would be welcome too.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:53 pm
by The Robman
Vicky described it correctly, one big ICT file that contains all of the buttons, with the NOTE box listing the button name.

It's easy to produce a Summary from the ICT file, so I would have thought the ICT file by itself would suffice.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:10 pm
by vickyg2003
The Robman wrote:Vicky described it correctly, one big ICT file that contains all of the buttons, with the NOTE box listing the button name.

It's easy to produce a Summary from the ICT file, so I would have thought the ICT file by itself would suffice.
I've had it loose everything but the signal a couple of times when I tried the big save, so I thought the summary would be a good thing to produce just incase the big file doesn't reopen.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:19 pm
by alanrichey
OK, I am still not 100% sure what to do here as I have not used the new IRSCOPE for reporting before. I assume I

1. Check the IR Capture text box
2. Learn each button in turn putting the name of the button in Note
3. Select ALL the entries
4. Export or Save As ?

Any other settings. How do I add a Summary ?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:27 pm
by The Robman
Step 4 is "Save Selected As".

If the file is successfully saved, anyone can open it using IRScope and then click the "Summary" button in order to get the Summary.

Here's an example of what a single ICT file looks like:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=8603

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:39 pm
by alanrichey

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:59 pm
by The Robman
Looks great Alan, thanks. Though I notice that some of the numeric buttons are missing (numbers 3, 4, 7).

[EDIT]I fixed the file so that the missing numeric buttons now appear.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:10 pm
by alanrichey
OK that's a bit odd as I definately put them all in and selected them. Might mean the notes for subsequent ones are wrong then ?

Let me know if you want me to try again,

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:13 pm
by vickyg2003
The Robman wrote:Looks great Alan, thanks. Though I notice that some of the numeric buttons are missing (numbers 3, 4, 7).
Yes, when I put the big files together, I have lost a bunch of keys in the past. I can never get it to repeat, so I'm not sure what I did to cause it. That's why I prepare a summary too. I know I can get the summary out, but its the missing signals that give me the problem.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:33 pm
by The Robman
alanrichey wrote:OK that's a bit odd as I definately put them all in and selected them. Might mean the notes for subsequent ones are wrong then ?

Let me know if you want me to try again,
You should be able to open the ICT file, then learn the missing buttons, and save it again. If you have the missing buttons in individual ICT files, you can open the big file, then open the individual files, then save the lot together.

To test what you've done, clear the screen and then open the ICT file to see what's in it.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:46 pm
by vickyg2003
The Robman wrote:You should be able to open the ICT file, then learn the missing buttons, and save it again. If you have the missing buttons in individual ICT files, you can open the big file, then open the individual files, then save the lot together.

To test what you've done, clear the screen and then open the ICT file to see what's in it.
If he had saved the summary too, we could have picked them up from there. That's what I was trying to get at, when I suggested BOTH the big ICT file and the summary.

I'll bet if we look closely at the signals, those numbers were so close together that the big ICT file just created one big signal from them.

Edit,
if you look at the 4th signal, you can see that the number of timing pairs is huge, and that's were the missing numbers are.

You might as well send those as seperate ICT files, because the big file will probably just colapse them again.

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:38 pm
by alanrichey
OK, here are individual ICT files for 2,3,4,5,6,7. Hopefully that covers the missing ones as well as the extra large corrupted ones

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=8685

Al

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:24 am
by vickyg2003
Rob, I popped open the large file that Alan saved in notepad, and I can see that if the time right before the word "note" is small enough to be a normal frame repeat, the note is ignored, and the next signal is treated as one big signal. Adding a leading 1 before each of those small leadout times, recovers the file just fine.

There seems to be some deliberate stepping in 20 increments as a frame repeats. For example the same postion in the repeats might go 600,580,540,520 but for decoding perposes those would probably be the same number.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:59 am
by The Robman
Could you let Graham know about what you found, so he can see if there's anything he can do about it. I'd also like to see the SAVE process made simpler. I think there should be a generic "Save" option which would always save all of the signals as one big ICT file, rather than needing to highlight everything first.