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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicky, you loaded a PB file, could you also load your KM file?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOH! I named them backwards. I replaced the file with the KM file same link.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9107

Thanks for checking up on me!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also found the information that was quoted
http://www.teamknox.com/BTRemCon/RoboNovaRemCon.txt

This indicates that there are 4 possible unit codes, so apparently we can get 4 robots working together to get that beverage while we are watching TV.



This is key2 for unit 1 from IR Scope and from the RoboNovaRemCon.Txt.

IR Scope rises when there is infrared activity, and goes lower during the quite time. Other scopes dip when there is infrared activity, and goes up during the quite time. I think the text file was showing the dipping style scope picture.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great find on that link Vicky, how on earth did you find it?

The first 2 bits of the OBC are the unit code (with values 0,1,2,3).

This also confirms that the last bit of the OBC is a checksum, which is an XOR of all the other bits in the OBC.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
The first 2 bits of the OBC are the unit code (with values 0,1,2,3).

This also confirms that the last bit of the OBC is a checksum, which is an XOR of all the other bits in the OBC.

If you say so. Rolling Eyes Bit pattern math is not my thing. I'll stick with the etch-a-sketch analysis. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicky, take a look at the binary for these signals. Here's the binary for the numeric buttons:

0000000 0 - 1
0000001 1 - 2
0000010 1 - 3
0000011 0 - 4
0000100 1 - 5
0000101 0 - 6
0000110 0 - 7
0000111 1 - 8
0001000 1 - 9
0001001 0 - 0

I've separated the last binary bit from the rest so now you should see that the rest of the binary increases in a normal MSB fashion.

You should also notice that when there is an even number of 1s in the binary, the checkbit is 0 and when there's an odd number of 1s, the checkbit is 1.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see it when I'm told, but never in a million years could I spot the pattern myself.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Vicky,
I tried to test your upgrade code to capture by Arduino that code is below
27197542 503 98 56 43 56 93 56 43 56 93 56 42 56 45 54 50 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 ¥n=1
1524578 506 95 56 43 56 93 56 43 56 93 56 42 56 44 55 50 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 ¥n=1
5146702 506 94 56 42 57 93 56 43 56 92 56 42 56 44 55 50 51 52 52 52 52 52 52 74 56 93 56 ¥n=2
170718 504 97 57 42 57 92 56 42 57 93 56 42 57 45 54 50 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 73 56 93 56 ¥n=2
4430544 506 94 59 40 59 90 58 40 59 90 58 40 59 44 54 50 52 52 52 52 52 76 57 42 57 93 57 ¥n=3
89031 505 96 60 39 60 90 59 39 58 91 57 42 57 44 55 49 52 52 52 52 52 79 57 42 57 92 57 ¥n=3
It isn't working?
This web site showed how to use Arduino capture and sent robonova remote signal
http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fmicono.cocolog-nifty.com%2Fblog%2F&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2
but I have not succes to use Arduino output IR signal .
It can help me to slove IR signal code.
thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fmicono.cocolog-nifty.com%2Fblog%2F&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2
cateorgy----Infrared Remote control

http://micono.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/cat20389945/index.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://micono.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/cat20389945/index.html&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhi2JfhIHNknktvyxV8QtaAP14vxdg
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff, where did you find the Arduino capture of the Robonova signal? The trouble that we're having is that you only posted one sample, and the button in that sample used all zeroes as the command code, which made it the least useful sample that you could have posted.

Bottom line, we would like to see more samples from the Robonova remote.

The capture that you posted seems to match the one sample that you posted:

27197542 503 098 56 43 56 093 56 43 56 093 56 42 56 45 54 50 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 52 ¥n=1 (learned from upgrade)
00323198 500 100 50 50 50 100 50 50 50 100 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 0 (the code you posted)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps the robot is

Unit 2, Unit 3 or Unit 4

Perhaps we have the frequency wrong

But the timings are as close as I can get them.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's possible. I have created an IR file for the URC-8910 that contains upgrades for all 4 unit codes.

Jeff, please load this file into your URC-8910 and then test the TV, VCR, DVD and AUX device buttons on your robot.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=9109
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rob,
TV mode is sucessful to control my ROBONOVA Robot.
Thanks for help!
jeff Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JP1 remote is powerful .
Logitech Harmony cannot do that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffchifu wrote:
Hi Rob,
TV mode is sucessful to control my ROBONOVA Robot.
Thanks for help!
jeff Very Happy

That confirms that you are using unit code 0. It also confirms that Vicky got the timings right the first time (I didn't change them). So, now we need to try and figure out why it didn't work when you added the upgrade in order for you to be able to add the upgrade to your working IR setup.

Could you try re-adding the upgrade to your IR file, then if it doesn't work, post a copy of your IR file so we can look to see what you're doing wrong.

I found the user manual here:
http://www.robonova.com/manager/control/board.php?go=1&tableName=board_14&behavior=read&seqid=26

And if anyone would like to see what the original remote looks like, here's a pic:


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