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eferz Expert
Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Posts: 1078 Location: Austin, Texas |
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:00 am Post subject: |
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vickyg2003 wrote: | We need to know the device manufacturer to come up with a name for this Kaseikyo variant. |
In the XML file, it indicates he wrote the manufacturer as "ShengZheng TianWei" and the model name as "DVTe 203A". After an extensive search this is the only information I was able to find regarding it.
Google Translation wrote: |
Product Overview
DVTe-203A Series is our remote control for video design and development of Shenzhen Tianwei third-generation remote control. Using 8-bit FLASH MCU imported EEPROM can save the extra cost, to avoid the learning easy to flush EEPROM in the possibility of a fixed code.
More integrated, more stable performance.
Key Features
- Intelligent analysis - Just keep learning good waveform data, do not need to deposit a fixed code, the software automatically recognize all kinds of unknown format, learning success rate of 99.9%, several times before learning to avoid the hassle.
- Long guard - The data has never been set memory function, even in the absence of a battery, the time to learn good data would be lost
- Up to 14 learning keys - Up to 14 learning keys, to be completed by a variety of home appliances remote learning function, learning success rate of 99.9%.
- High integration - Single chip, the failure rate lower. Combined with the launch window to receive the window, use the more convenient.
- Low power consumption - Better than the national standard, low-voltage 1.75V
- EEPROM save overhead.
Technical Specifications
No project technical parameters- An infrared wavelength of 950 ± 50 nm
- Carrier Frequency 37.92 ± 0.18KHz
- Operating current ≤ 40mA
- Static current ≤ 3uA
- Operating voltage range 2.4V ~ 3.9V
- Operating range (axis direction) ≥ 8m
- points of ± 30 °
- point role of the distance ≥ 6m
- voltage (2.5V) state the role of distance ≥ 4m
Environmental Testing
No project technical parameters- An environmental test ± 15KV ESD
- high temperature storage test 60 °
- Low Temperature Storage Test -20 °
- Damp heat, steady 40 ℃ relative humidity 90 ± 2%
- GB/T14960-9 changes in temperature cycling test 5 standard by
Than on the test report
Standards: the European version of universal remote control (more than 1600 group code, more than 210 kinds of formats)
The company's products: the following as our products (FIASH IC, IC is divided into program space and data space, data space, keep learning after the data. No EEPROM, crystal oscillator using an ordinary ceramic
Rui Mote Product: Rui Mote product is Broadcasting in 2007 by Rui Mote Jilin products (MASK IC as FS6220, takeaway EEPROM, crystal, quartz crystal)
Comparison of learning: (using the instruments: IR decoding apparatus)
For the time modulation, phase modulation, no carrier modulation, multi-logic modulation, for no change in position, carrier frequency :0-64K, a median of 64 below, our products and Rui Mote products can learn.
Test items of our products Rui Mote products
- No-carrier modulation
Two changes in code (0,2,1,3) +6 +3 users code-bit data code + DELAY normal changes in code (1,3) changes, incomplete
- Phase modulation
Boot Code +4 +1 Bit code to guide the user code changes +1 bit code code +8 +8 bits of user data bits code + DELAY normal changes in position can not learn
- Time modulation
Two changes in code (0,2,1,3) +6 +3 users code bits of data code + DELAY normal changes in code (1,3) changes, incomplete
- More logical modulation
Boot code +7 +5 bits of user code bits of data code + DELAY, made the end of frame code 7-bit data code change in the normal end of the frame can not learn
- Limited frame (only several groups yards), discontinuous hair code) normal continuous hair code
Comparison of learning accuracy (using instruments: oscilloscope)
Compared the two formats most frequently used market: NEC and the 3010 format.
Format standards of our products Rui Mote products
- NEC format carrier frequency: 38.17K
- LH: 9.04ms LL: 4.50ms
- HH: 564us 0L: 560us
- 1L: 1.68ms LA: 2.24ms carrier frequency: 37.88K
- LH: 9.08ms LL: 4.50ms
- HH: 568us 0L: 564us
- 1L: 1.70ms LA: 2.26ms carrier frequency: 37.31K
- LH: 9.12ms LL: 4.50ms
- HH: 520us 0L: 584us
- 1L: 1.70ms LA: 2.22ms
- 3010 Format: carrier frequency: 36.50K HH: 892us
- LL: 904us carrier frequency: 36.50K HH: 896us
- LL: 896us carrier frequency: 36.23K HH: 864us
- LL: 924us
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Eferz, "ShengZheng TianWei" it shall be
Rob, I took a stab at this with the 00 F8:3 protocol, I was going to try to do this with out requiring a protocol upgrade, but after looking at the timings I think I'm too far out of whack. What do you think, custom protocol?
Sample timings
Timings from xml
+3638 -1804 +392 -368 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368
Timings from 00f8:3
+3414 -1667 +433 -413 +433 -421 +433 -1286 +433 -421 +433 -1294 +406 -440 +433 -1294 +406 -440
I'm not exactly clear on how to do the protocols.ini to get it to use the built in version, althoug I did update the RDF's with protocol information. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a partial upgrade.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=8961 _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21249 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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vickyg2003 wrote: | Sample timings
Timings from xml
+3638 -1804 +392 -368 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368
Timings from 00f8:3
+3414 -1667 +433 -413 +433 -421 +433 -1286 +433 -421 +433 -1294 +406 -440 +433 -1294 +406 -440 |
My guess is that that is close enough. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
Please don't PM me with remote questions, post them in the forums so all the experts can help! |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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The Robman wrote: | vickyg2003 wrote: | Sample timings
Timings from xml
+3638 -1804 +392 -368 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368
Timings from 00f8:3
+3414 -1667 +433 -413 +433 -421 +433 -1286 +433 -421 +433 -1294 +406 -440 +433 -1294 +406 -440 |
My guess is that that is close enough. |
I decided to take the easy way out and force an upgrade instead of dinking around with protocols.ini. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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How do you force an upgrade vs. use protocols.ini? _________________ Rob
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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vickyg2003 wrote: | The Robman wrote: | vickyg2003 wrote: | Sample timings
Timings from xml
+3638 -1804 +392 -368 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368 +392 -1358 +392 -368
Timings from 00f8:3
+3414 -1667 +433 -413 +433 -421 +433 -1286 +433 -421 +433 -1294 +406 -440 +433 -1294 +406 -440 |
My guess is that that is close enough. |
I decided to take the easy way out and force an upgrade instead of dinking around with protocols.ini. |
Well all the slingboxes have 00f8:3 built in, so if I setup up something for the ShengZheng protocol in protocol.INI, I could have had a device upgrade that didn't require a protocol upgrade, saving 32 bytes. But that was the "close enough" protocol, and it might not have been close enough, so instead I created a very simple protocol that has the right timings and requires 32 byte upgrade. I really want to learn how to manipulate protocols.ini, but it seemed like too much work. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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jkgtw
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eferz Expert
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:02 am Post subject: |
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jkgtw wrote: | It works on SlingPlayer to remotely control DVTe 203A cable box, but the left button still not working. |
The problem is that the learns for "left" and "zero" were invalid. This could have been avoided by validating the learns during teaching process. Vicky was able make an educated guess for the appropriate values for "0" but there wasn't enough information for "left". I would recommend in going back to reteach them and validating them. Let us know when you are able to relearn it, so it can be decoded appropriately. |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:54 am Post subject: |
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When I looked at the signals I couldn't figure out any of these keys.
Quote: | It appears that zero, eight, Guide, Left, Up and Channel Down are not going to work. |
When Rob did the analysis he figured out eight, guide, and Channel Down, I guessed at the zero, and up, but the left learn is bad. There is not enough information there to even make a guess.
Make sure you try the zero,guide, up and channel down are working correctly. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Some of the incomplete learns had enough of the signal there for me to tell the OBC, even if the learn itself wouldn't have worked. _________________ Rob
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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jkgtw, did you ever relearn the left arrow and check the other keys?
I'd really like to finish this upgrade. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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The Robman Site Owner
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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I tried emailing jkgtw to get him to come back to this thread, but the email bounced back, so we've probably heard the last of him. _________________ Rob
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eferz Expert
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for following up with the response. I see the results for the missing button.
Name: Left
EFC: 031
Byte 1: 76
OBC: 69
Hex: 32 A2
There was just no way to guess that one based on the other information. Unlike UP which matched Channel UP and Channel Down which matched Down. A rudimentary guess was easy enough to fill in that gap. |
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