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TheGMan
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 Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:47 pm Post subject: Time to upgrade ... please help me decide |
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Hello ... I'm an old time member and it is good to see things keep rolling along on this site. I have been through several iterations of remotes (15-1994, 15-2116, and 15-133) over the years and it is time to upgrade again as I just can't stand the RS15-133 any longer.
I currently have a JP1.3 cable, a varied equipment configuration (although mostly older equipment), and a complicated remote configuration using all the bell/whistles (extenders, macros, learned keys, phantoms, etc.).
I have the following requirements on a remote and any help identifing contenders would be very much appreciated ...
- Backlighting
- JP1.3 ... not required, but very much preferred
- Available extender ... unless there have been changes that allow for reprogramming device buttons without extender
- Larger buttons ... at least compared to the RS 15-133 buttons which are very small. 15-1994 / 15-2116 button size was nice.
- Reasonable amount of memory ... although I had no problems with the amount on 15-133.
Thanks in advance ... G |
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mdavej
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Backlit Atlas (ebay) is about your only option. It's not learning, so hang on to that 133 for that. |
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xnappo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mdavej wrote: | | Backlit Atlas (ebay) is about your only option. It's not learning, so hang on to that 133 for that. |
Yep - agreed.
Here is the seller that I use:
http://cgi.ebay.com/380171086859
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tennessee titan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Learning Atlas are around. You just have to look for them |
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xnappo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| tennessee titan wrote: | | Learning Atlas are around. You just have to look for them |
The backlit learners are pretty darn hard to find though.. So if you don't use learning except when you get a new device, easier to just keep the 133 and get the TWC backlit Atlas.
Don't get me wrong - I would love to find a long-term source for backlit learners.
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SouthPaw
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with the Atlas 1056 as well. I get my backlit 1056s from here. $10 shipped. They are not learning. http://cgi.ebay.com/110526482531 |
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xnappo
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I have seen on UEI's site a reference to shipping Atlas OCAP remotes in boxes of 50.
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9MzgwMzJ8Q2hpbGRJRD0tMXxUeXBlPTM=&t=1
Seriously - has anyone asked them their minimum order size? It seems like these eBay sellers are getting these pretty easily, and I don't really think they all fell off a truck.
I would be willing to buy 50 learning backlit remotes if they would sell them to me...
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TheGMan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you so much for the replies.
The Atlas is hideous  However by most accounts it seems to be a good remote.
I'll give it a try ... Stay tuned! |
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xnappo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| TheGMan wrote: | Thank you so much for the replies.
The Atlas is hideous However by most accounts it seems to be a good remote.
I'll give it a try ... Stay tuned! |
Really? I actually like the way it looks. It is the most '15-1994' remote there has been in a while - and I also find it ergonomic.
But to each his own of course.
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The Robman
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| xnappo wrote: | | Seriously - has anyone asked them their minimum order size? It seems like these eBay sellers are getting these pretty easily, and I don't really think they all fell off a truck. |
I think you'll find that most (if not all) of the Atlas remotes that are sold on ebay have already been branded for a particular product (eg, Comcast, etc) which would imply that the sellers are getting them from the cable companies rather than UEI.
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gfb107
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I got one of the backlit Atlas 1056s to play with. Mine is from Time Warner Cable.
I got it because I wanted a remote with the yellow/blue/green/red buttons that more and more devices seem to use, and my URC-6131 doesn't have.
IMHO quite ugly, but workable. Love the backlight, and that there are so many buttons and they are all in the button map, but...
5 devices is just barely enough (for me).
I'm disappointed that there are no labelled keys for these functions: Audio, Angle, Subtitle/CC, Slow, Next, Prev
Does anybody really still use PIP? The multi-tuner DVR stopped that for me over 10 years ago. That's 5 buttons right there that could have been better used.
And why are there both Page +/- and Ch +/- buttons? I don't understand why anybody would design a UI where you would need both on the same screen(s).
The Day +/- buttons also don't make sense to me, but then again I don't have cable.
Do other cable companies label their buttons differently?
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Capn Trips
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Here is another seller of backlit Atlas OCAPs.
I would point out that many resellers do not distinguish between the "Atlas DVR 5-device" (URC-1054), the "Atlas DVR/PVR (Day)" (URC 1055) and the "Atlas DVR OCAP" (URC-1056), and frequently mix one picture with another's number and have no real clue what they are selling, so caveat emptor.
For my money, the only one worth a darn is the OCAP (URC-1056) particularly because it is the only one that has four "color" buttons, which more and more devices (TVs, Blu-Ray players, etc.) seem to have these days. The three color buttons on the other models just don't hack it (for me).
EDIT: and as for appearance, for whatever reason, although the black Atlases (majority available) are below average for me in appearance, the silver OCAPs I find quite attractive. I am fortunate enough to have scored a pair of backlit learning silver OCAPs back when we first became aware of them. I have not seen any for sale in a LONG time, however.
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Capn Trips
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Yeah the 5-device limit REALLY cramps my style.
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Capn Trips
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Here is a guide to help sort them all out.
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DVD/VCR: Pioneer DV-400VK (multi-region DVD), Sony BDP-S350 (Blu-ray), Toshiba HD-A3 (HD-DVD), Panasonic AG-W1 (Multi-system VCR);
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xnappo
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| Capn Trips wrote: | | Yeah the 5-device limit REALLY cramps my style. |
We are all waiting for the great Vicky there. I am sure she will come through with a prototype that can be adapted to the Atlas.
Regarding track foward/back, see my OCD post here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10375
be sure to scroll down as down I only use the button modification.
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