JP1 Remotes

ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

Vicky, you're right. AS USUAL.
After posting my thing, I downloaded the .ict files and saw precisely what you say. If you or Rob want to delete my post, is ok with me, just to keep this thread clean of mistakes.
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vickyg2003 · Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject:

If I deleted all my posts that had mistakes, it would be about half of them. Laughing

This does seem to be an interesting protocol. I'm always amazed at how Rob makes sense of these things.

I hope that Alan can capture the rest of the signals so we can analyze it more thoroughly.
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jimdunn · Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 544 Location: NSW, Australia

I don't know if you guys already looked at this, but if this device is a Nova PVR-3001, then this post:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76796#76796
looks like very similar "symptoms" to those you have here, especially this comment:

alanrichey · Expert Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA

Do you need some more learned signals from me ? if so what ?

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:31 am Post subject:

jimdunn · Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 544 Location: NSW, Australia

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:52 am Post subject:

jimdunn · Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 544 Location: NSW, Australia

I downloaded your summary.

I can see that it has the same basic "shape" as the Harmony learns if I put, say, the 2 sets of timings for the "five" key side by side - but that's about it, for me, at my level. Crying or Very sad

I hope it helps someone to understand it.

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:40 am Post subject:

I looked at it this morning and think that this is a base 8 signal.

We suspect the leadin timing pair wrong.

Instead of 400,300 I tried 240,0 and got an extra data pair, but that was just to get the numbers to look better when rounding.

I then rounded to 80 and came up with 8 distinct timing pairs. I tried 40, but that gave me 9 distinct timing pairs, so 8 seemed like a better choice.

0=+160,-240
1=+160,-320
2=+160,-400
3=+160,-480
4=+160,-560
5=+160,-640
6=+160,-720
7=+170,-800

I then got this nonsense. But there were different frame endings which might be more of a clue to what is going on here.

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vickyg2003 · Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject:

Doh! I used my lookup tool for the NOVA and it looks like this could be cable/1559 or cable/1560. That would be bad news for slingbox users, since the protocol is going to be way to large to fit into the sling because of size limits. The protocol alone will be 500 bytes and then there is the device upgrade too.

I'd load it up and take a look, but I managed to get my widget curled around my leg, and when I got up and walked away I jerked it with enough force to pull all of the wires out of the USB end. I've got the wires stripped and ready to solder, but I've moved 2x since the last time I soldered and can't seem to locate it. Crying or Very sad

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vickyg2003 · Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:21 am Post subject:

Could somebody with a widget anod one of these remotes; urc-7555, urc-7780, urc-7781, urc-7940 or urc-7750 setup SAT/1560 and take a picture of the number 5 so we can confirm that this is that xmp1.4 signal?
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mathdon · Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:08 am Post subject:

Here are .ict files for key 5 from SAT/1559 and SAT/1560 devices. The two signals seem to be similar but not identical. Neither DecodeIR nor the new ExchangeIR analysis can make anything of them!
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vickyg2003 · Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:25 am Post subject:

Thanks Graham, that helped a lot. This is the same signal structure that we saw from the other sources. This would be the xmp1.4 4 player signal. The protocol is absolutely huge and I see no way to get this down to a size that can be loaded into a sling box.
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mathdon · Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject:

Mackouli · Joined: 30 Apr 2010 Posts: 10 Location: Australia

I am very appreciative of all the effort by all the expert within the forum that have been working on a solution for a bin file for Nova pvr 3001. The box I am attempting to control is for the Greek pay-tv operator NOVA in front of the box the label is Nova pvr 3001 , underneath the box its labeled Panasat pvr 3001 if that helps. I have also tried http://betaremotes.slingbox.com/ with no success