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ddog524
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 Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: Pioneer service remote GGF1381 |
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1. Device:Pioneer DVR-520HS
2. Type of device: DVD recorder with hard drive
3. JP1 Remote model: URC9910
4. JP1 user? Yes
5. Still have original remote? Yes
6. Checked Yahoo file section? Yes
7. Checked Pronto file section Yes
I don't need any assistance with the original remote codes for the DVR-520HS.What I am looking for are the codes for the Pioneer service remote GGF1381. This special remote is only sold to service centers or
dealers.
http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/part.asp?productNum=GGF1381
In order to upgrade the hard drive to a larger one on a
Pioneer DVR-520HS DVD recorder, you need this special
remote control to authorize the unit to accept the new
drive, along with a service manual and a special data CD-ROM. Both the CD-ROM and the service manual are available directly from Pioneer.
It may be just wishful thinking that someone at this group may have such a remote and would be willing to capture the codes and post them.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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johnsfine
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Pioneer service remote GGF1381 |
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| ddog524 wrote: |
It may be just wishful thinking that someone at this group may have such a remote |
If not, I'm sure someone in
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-custom/list.cgi
has it and they may have already posted the Pronto Hex and/or a CCF file.They may not like end user questions over there, so you may be better off asking in the related forum a lot of them frequent:
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-discrete/list.cgi
If you find Pronto Hex or a CCF, then people here know how to use that info for JP1 programming. |
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sub0
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Pioneer service remote GGF1381 |
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| johnsfine wrote: | | If you find Pronto Hex or a CCF, then people here know how to use that info for JP1 programming. |
The required pronto codes hv already been posted here:
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/images/guides/p1205741/pronto.zip
My understanding is that file only contains the service codes required to do the HD upgrade.
Service manual is not required as upgrade instructions are in this thread
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=253998
Problem is getting the special DVD. Pioneer will only sell to authorised service centre, it seems. Read that thread.
Anyway, if the gurus here will convert that pronto file and put the jpi equivalent into the yahoo group, it will be much appreciated. |
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The Robman
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the JP1 upgrade: Pioneer service remote
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ddog524
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks "sub0", the links you posted were indeed where I had gathered the information I have so far. I downloaded the pronto files and converted them to jp1 codes, however I found several errors in either the capture of the the codes or in the conversion process. I am a relative rookie at this. It is the 1st pronto file I had converted.
However "Robman" , I assume after cleaning up the errrors, came up with essentially the same info I would have used. I feel much better about that. I am sure he has done so many of these that he cannot count any more.
It would have been nice to have the complete set of codes but this should suffice.
Lastly, I am very impressed with the both of you.
"johnsfine" I will check into the links you provided and see if I can get a complete set of codes, thank you. You guys are good!!
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johnsfine
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ddog524 wrote: | | I downloaded the pronto files and converted them to jp1 codes, however I found several errors in either the capture of the the codes or in the conversion process. |
I saw a couple minor glitches in the '9' code and a minor glitch in the '0'. But those were all the least serious kind of learning/decoding glitch: The full correct signal was present and decoded correctly but there were some extra fragments at the beginning and end.
When you look at DecodeCCF output, you need to be able to ignore such fragments.
I looked to see if there were harder things that needed Rob's high level of Pioneer knowledge (or things we've seen in other Pioneer service codes that might even fool Rob). There were no such problems in this CCF file. Just simple Pioneer signals plus those fragments I mentioned.
| ddog524 wrote: | | It is the 1st pronto file I had converted. |
Make sure you do better the second time 
| ddog524 wrote: | | It would have been nice to have the complete set of codes but this should suffice. |
I scanned my massive collection of CCF files for any containing that "ESC" signal (which seemed a distinctive part of the service remote). There wer zero hits, which I guess means I've never before downloaded a CCF file which contains that service remote. That was rather disappointing. But I haven't downloaded every Pioneer CCF from RC. There might still be a better service remote in there. |
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The Robman
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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When people learn signals using a Pronto, they don't usually run a program like DecodeCCF or CCF2EFC against it to verify that the signals look "clean", as far as they're concerned, if they work, they work, that's it.
On occassion, rather than capturing one nice clean repetition of the signal, they end up storing 5 or 6 repetitions of the signal, which is what you were seeing for a couple of the buttons in this CCF.
If you look closely at the data, you'll see that all the buttons that have bad looking decodes, have several decodes associated with them, and at least a couple of the decodes are valid Pioneer signals where the device code and command code are the same for each of them. I think the decode showed up as NEC2 rather than Pioneer for one of the buttons, but this was simply because the frequency dropped slightly below 40kHz.
Therefore, there were good decodes mixed in with all the bad decodes, for all the buttons, so I was able to get the complete set of codes.
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ddog524
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info guys! I have seen some of the same kind of glitches that we found on the 0 and 9 keys when capturing codes off of some of my remotes. It looked to me like some of the info was still okay and I deleted the erroneous entries. The only part that had me a bit woried is that you need to enter a serial number with remote to have the unit accept the new hard drive. If I was not able to enter a 9 for example, then the upgrade would fail and I probably would not be able to use the old drive either, because you have to delete the old info first. A little scarry, the unit costs around $430. You know how it is, there is nothing like clean data!
Anyway, I feel reassured and I appreciate all your help and tips. Hats off to the masters!
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jon_armstrong
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| johnsfine wrote: | | ... or things we've seen in other Pioneer service codes that might even fool Rob... |
Is there a link to those protocol variations. If they could possibly fool Rob then I would be in the same fix 
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johnsfine
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I thought we (you, Rob and I) had a discussion about it when we found it. But I don't remember the URL and I might be misremembering any or all aspects of it.
To the extent that I do remember, Pioneer had a signal in which the function's check byte was intentionally "wrong". |
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The Robman
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sub0
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ddog524 wrote: | Thanks "sub0", the links you posted...
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Well, lets thanked Robman and Johnsfine. I did nothing other than post the link, which you should have done in the first instant.
If you succeed in the upgrade, post back your results. I don't have the pioneer now. Had got the DVR220 for Cdn$299 during boxing day. Liked it so much I returned it until I can afford the DVR520. (the clerk's eyes popped when I put the "reason for return" as "liked it very much" ). The DVR520 has been dropping C$100 each week for the past 3 weeks. If the trend continues another couple weeks, I'll bite. |
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johnsfine
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Once again proving how rotten my memory is. Rob (and even Mark and Greg slightly) and I were all in that thread and somehow despite the topic, Jon didn't join in.
Sorry Jon, I should have assumed your memory would be better than mine if you had been in the thread. |
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ddog524
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: Pioneer service remote GGF1381 Update |
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I have found a complete set of IR codes for this remote elsewhere on the net. However, they were captured using WinLIRC.
http://hardware.mcse.ms/archive144-2005-6-200981.html
The partial set of codes from the earlier post at the link above worked fine. But it would be nice to have the complete set of codes in JP1 format for some other, or future need.
My project is completed at this time so I am in absolutely no hurry at all. Some of the other members of this forum may be interested in these perhaps?
I compared the file from the earlier post to the WinLIRC text below and could see no way to convert the file myself. I also searched the forum for WinLIRC file conversions and it seeems like they are often a pain.
Thanks again for all your help
ddog524
| Code: | #
# this config file was automatically generated
# using WinLIRC 0.6.3 (LIRC 0.6.1pre3) on Tue Jun 14 15:51:41 2005
#
# contributed by
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# brand: pioservrmtGGF1381
# model:
# supported devices:
#
begin remote
name pioservrmtGGF1381
bits 15
flags SPACE_ENC
eps 25
aeps 100
header 8656 4120
one 643 391
zero 643 1460
ptrail 643
pre_data_bits 16
pre_data 0xEA15
post_data_bits 1
post_data 0x0
gap 37783
toggle_bit 0
begin codes
stop/eject 0x0000000000004BB4
dig/ana 0x0000000000006798
disp 0x0000000000001EE1
esc 0x00000000000002FD
test 0x00000000000042BD
cx 0x00000000000047B8
rep.a 0x0000000000007689
rep.b 0x0000000000006E91
stereo 0x00000000000056A9
p.run 0x0000000000004AB5
a.mon 0x00000000000043BC
tv/ldp 0x00000000000007F8
-speed 0x0000000000004EB1
+speed 0x0000000000000EF1
a.side 0x00000000000026D9
b.side 0x00000000000046B9
<<scan 0x0000000000003BC4[vbcol=seagreen]
<x3 0x00000000000032CD
x3> 0x0000000000003AC5
<ll.stillstep 0x0000000000007A85
stillstep.ll> 0x0000000000006A95
l<<chapterskip 0x0000000000001AE5
chapterskip>>ll 0x0000000000005AA5
pause 0x000000000000738C
play 0x0000000000000BF4
1 0x0000000000003FC0
2 0x0000000000005FA0
3 0x0000000000001FE0
4 0x0000000000006F90
5 0x0000000000002FD0
6 0x0000000000004FB0
7 0x0000000000000FF0
8 0x0000000000007788
9 0x00000000000037C8
0 0x0000000000007F80
clear 0x0000000000002ED1
+10 0x00000000000003FC
frm/tim 0x0000000000003EC1
chap 0x0000000000007E81
chp/tim 0x0000000000001BE4
search 0x0000000000005EA1
end codes
end remote |
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