JP1 Remotes

vickyg2003 · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: New Device Lookup Tool

Rob suggested that I put together some information that will be helpful to JP1 users who have lost their OEM remote or don't have a learning remote. If nothing can be found in the files section here, or at remotecentral, or at the manufacturer's site, this would be another resource of information to start an upgrade.

JP1 Device Lookup Tool
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Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.

Tommy Tyler · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:32 am Post subject:

Wow! My jaw hit the floor when I opened this tool the first time. It is beautifully designed, works fast, and seems to tell you everything you could want to know about a JP1 situation. I can't believe the amount of information that is packaged in this little utility.

Tommy

The Robman · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:42 am Post subject:

I've added a link to the tool in the main menu above, to the right of the File Search link.
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vickyg2003 · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject:

Thanks, this is still a work in process, as I gather and clean my data.
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Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.

ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

Cool tool. Thanks Vicky Smile

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underquark · Expert Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 874 Location: UK

Very, very good. I'm posting a link to it (if you don't mind) to the UK/Europe/(and Oz at the moment) Toppy site (Topfield PVRs) as people there are forever asking about alternative remotes, mainly for their PVR but also to control other devices. There are some fairly bright hardware and software people frequent that site and if I evangelise enough they might pop over here to offer help.

vickyg2003 · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject:

Sure Underquark. Please note that right now, you are ending up at my development site, but eventually Rob will be hosting this. The permanent site will be www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/lookup .
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Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

Vicky,

Brilliant tool. I have found a bug though. On your Device lookup results you have a column called Yes with several Yes entries in it. I'm guessing the header should be something else.

EDIT: One more thing. The RCA RCRP0FB remote model number should be RCRP05B

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

mdavej,
I haven't seen this, and I've been using the tool quite a bit.

Do you have an example?

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:32 am Post subject:

Dave, I tried to explain the YES column on the overview page.

If it is present, it says Yes, otherwise its blank.

I was looking for a small heading because screen real estate is premium.
I also left it blank if it wasn't present simply because for me its a lot easier to read if its there.

Would it be more user friendly if it spelled out "In?", "Exists" or "Found",. Do you want the word "No" spelled out too? I only spelled out the Yes but left the others blank make it easier for me to read, but if user's can't interpret it, what is the use of that?

I also think I might have to do something to make this more friendly to the users that have the LCD's and very explicit categories. It says Audio/xxxx, but with the fancy remotes you might have several categories to check if you are not quite sure if its a CD or RCV or AMP. If you look up the brands, it will give you more of a clue, like HOME or MISC or CD.... I have some URC8910s, but I have never used them. Might be a good time to look and see how this could be made more intuitive.
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Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.

mathdon · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:02 am Post subject:

mdavej · Expert Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 4501

Vicky,

I understand now that you explained it. Exists is clearer to me, if it fits ok. Yes or blank inside the results is fine the way it is. If I had read the overview page more carefully, I would have understood.

Another thing that might be a little confusing is if someone has a remote that takes 5 digit setup codes, where the first digit is the device type, how would they know what to append to the setup code? Maybe note somewhere indicating Cable = 0, TV = 1, Video = 2, Audio = 3. The only problem is I don't think any of the source info you're working with tells you if a remote uses 4 or 5 digit setup codes, does it? Only a few of the latest remotes like the radio shacks are the only one's using 5 digit device codes, AFAIK.

3FG,

Yes is the first column in all the search pages.

3FG · Expert Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3367

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject:

vickyg2003 · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:34 am Post subject:

I changed my mind. Since it became apparent that the tool needed more information for the fancy remotes, I dropped the yes/in? column and replaced it with an "access method" column. If it says "n/a" the code is not in the remote. Otherwise it will specify the prefix digit for 5 digit remotes, the prefix letter for slingbox, the associated device key for the typical remote, or the selectable device type for LCD remotes.

For the OEM remotes, this information is not as accurate as I'd like it to be. If I haven't read the manual, I can't be sure how the setup codes are assigned.

I'm particularly confused by the dreambox remotes, and the Tivo remotes.
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Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.