JP1 Remotes

Subject: Pioneer Kuro Plasma monitor PRO-101FD

1. Device: Pioneer plasma 50" monitor PRO-101FD
2. Type of device: Plasma TV monitor
3. Year: 2009
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: URC-8910
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? Yes
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? Yes, TV/0166
10. Learning remote question? n/a

Hi there,
Just wondering if any member has the codeset for the above. I've tried to use something close to the above (eg Pioneer_Pro-1120HD.txt), but only the power on/off works, nothing else. Would appreciate if someone has this codeset, and willing to share. Thanks in advance.

Your best bet is to just learn any codes that you lack and decode them. After all you have a learning remote, a cable and JP12 software, do you not? At this stage, it's GOT to be faster than waiting around for someone to upload something for you.

I agree with the Captain, its got to be a lot easier to just learn the codes.

I've tried to use something close to the above (eg Pioneer_Pro-1120HD.txt),

I couldn't find that upgrade I think I'd start with the Pioneer PR0 800 The partially working code that you reported, is a Pioneer 170, but the Pioneer HD Plasma TV's tend to use a pioneer mix 4 Cmd Signal.

Good Luck.

Here's Pioneer's website which lists the codes for the PRO101FD. You'll need to use Pioneer MIX protocol for the functions with two commands. For example Input 1 is AA5A+AF7A. So on the RM setup tab, choose Pioneer MIX, then enter 170 (AAH) into Device 1, and 175 (AFH) into Device 2. Put 90 (5AH) into CMD 1, and 91 (5BH) into CMD 2, because some other prefixes are AA5B. On the Functions tab, click on Prefix Device and choose 170 from the dropdown list. Choose 90 for Prefix Command. Choose 175 for Device and enter 122 (7AH) as the OBC.

For functions with only 1 word (e.g. Power on/off=AA1C) select none from the dropdown lists for Prefix Device and Command.

3FG wrote:Here's Pioneer's website which lists the codes for the PRO101FD. You'll need to use Pioneer MIX protocol for the functions with two commands. For example Input 1 is AA5A+AF7A. So on the RM setup tab, choose Pioneer MIX, then enter 170 (AAH) into Device 1, and 175 (AFH) into Device 2. Put 90 (5AH) into CMD 1, and 91 (5BH) into CMD 2, because some other prefixes are AA5B. On the Functions tab, click on Prefix Device and choose 170 from the dropdown list. Choose 90 for Prefix Command. Choose 175 for Device and enter 122 (7AH) as the OBC.

For functions with only 1 word (e.g. Power on/off=AA1C) select none from the dropdown lists for Prefix Device and Command.

You can translate all of that hex if you wish, but as I said at the top, learning and building your own upgrade is likely to be much faster unless you're already familiar with hex-dec translation.

reeberom1,
You can easily convert hex to decimal using the Windows calculator. One way to access that is through Start-Run, then enter calc in the box labled Open. In the Calculator, click Hex, enter the two hex digits to convert, and then click Dec.


Capn Trips,
I happen to think my first post has considerable merit. It provides a link to a valuable source of information: the Pioneer function codes. It shows how to build an upgrade to control that particular Pioneer unit, and many others, without needing the original remote. Additionally it allows incorporating functions which aren't available in the original remote.

I also think that translating hex to decimal is considerably quicker and more accurate than using a learning remote. There are two hex digits to translate for each function. For each learned key, there are two opportunities to push the wrong button, and the only way to verify the learn is to relearn the same function.

3FG wrote:reeberom1,
You can easily convert hex to decimal using the Windows calculator. One way to access that is through Start-Run, then enter calc in the box labled Open. In the Calculator, click Hex, enter the two hex digits to convert, and then click Dec.


Capn Trips,
I happen to think my first post has considerable merit. It provides a link to a valuable source of information: the Pioneer function codes. It shows how to build an upgrade to control that particular Pioneer unit, and many others, without needing the original remote. Additionally it allows incorporating functions which aren't available in the original remote.

I also think that translating hex to decimal is considerably quicker and more accurate than using a learning remote. There are two hex digits to translate for each function. For each learned key, there are two opportunities to push the wrong button, and the only way to verify the learn is to relearn the same function.

"3FG" and Capn Trips,
I thank you both for your insights. With these two options, I'm sure I'll be successful. Much appreciated!

3FG,

I'm not here to debate with you. You need to be a little less sensitive. I did not suggest that your post had no merit. In fact I have never seen that Pioneer site referenced in these fora before, and I think that it's a long-overdue resource, and suggest that a 1-line post referencing that site ought to be made a sticky at the top of the Code Search sub-forum, similar to the link to the "other Rob's" Sony code site.

That said, I suggest that each individual will have a different experience, and IF that individual is experienced with hex-to-dec translation, super. Perhaps even using the calculator as you suggest may be more efficient for some, but for me, it is a MUCH simpler matter to learn 30-40 buttons (memory-dependent, of course) in one sitting - it really does not take long if you do them sequentially - and then download to IR, which provides a display in a convenient form all of the data required to build an upgrade, without necessitating any "translation".

Your way works for you which is great. I was suggesting that an alternative way might work faster for some.

Good evening gentlemen,

I've tried doing the two methods as suggested. By learning the codes with the two remotes, as well as doing hex to dec translation on codes from Pioneer. I have a question to the both you, and I'm hoping it's not going to create issues. Peace man!

The last time I used IR and KM was in 2004. I've just got a new monitor, so that's why I'm refreshing my memory (it's tougher everyday, being an old retired guy).

Capn Trips: I've only done the KM with devices that have single hex or efc codes. After learning, I've got two codes for most of the functions. How do one enter the two codes in KM?

3FG: I followed your instructions on entering 90 (5AH) and 91 (5BH) into CMDs (in RM, which is new to me). However, this will only generate the following in the drop down menu of the Function tab : none, 90, and 91. This is a problem because in order to program PIP functions, 94 (5EH) is required (there's also 53H for zoom etc.). How can one enter the rest? I can live without the PIP functions, but I just want to learn.

Thanks again to the both of you. I need to keep my brain active, and gardening just doesn't cut it.

BTW, my URC remote is working quite well with the Kuro/Denon reciever/satellite/LG blueray. Thanks!

Peace out!

I think that you need to use a different protocol executor. You don't say which one you ARE using, but in RM, when you select ANY Pioneer protocol executor, there is a pretty extensive readme or protocol notes that describes what each executor does.

If you selected the basic Pioneer protocol, you likely do not have enough flexibility to enter all of your functions. You probably need the Pioneer 3DEV or even 4DEV protocol executor. They provide you more options and flexibility to buyild the one or two-command functions you require.

KM also has this flexibility, using the different protocol execxutors, but I personally find KM a little more difficult to sort out.

reeberom1,
OK, I see the issue. The Kuro has a total of 5 different command bytes. And, for a 8910 using Pioneer MIX, RM only allows you to enter 2 command bytes. (But see the end of this post for a possible workaround.) There are (at least) two versions of the Pioneer MIX protocol. The earlier implementation, which apparently the 8910 has, only allowed for 2 command bytes. A later version allows 4 command bytes.

I think there are two ways to proceed. 1) Using the MIX protocol built in to the 8910, build 3 separate upgrades. The largest upgrade would incorporate all the single byte functions, and the 2 largest sets of dual byte functions. Another upgrade would have 2 other dual byte functions, and the 3rd would have just the 1 remaining set of dual byte functions.

All of the keys associated with upgrades 2 and 3 would be assigned as keymoves, either on the external functions tab of RM/KM, or on the keymove tab of IR. (You could also place upgrades 2 and 3 on other device buttons.)

2) A better way, I think, since the 8910 doesn't have much space for keymoves and macros, would be to add in the Pioneer MIX 4 Cmd protocol. Then you would need 2 upgrades, but the smaller upgrade would only contain the 3 functions of Cmd 88, meaning only 3 keymoves. (Are you sure those 3 functions are useful? If not, you only need 1 upgrade.)

KM has the MIX 4 Cmd protocol available as a protocol upgrade.

To use KM, on the setup sheet, choose Pioneer MIX 4 Cmd from the drop down box. Enter in 170, 175, 83, 90, 91, 94. On the functions sheet, make sure you select OBC entry, and then study the instruction at the right in the green font. You'll enter 0, 1, 3, 5, or 7 to choose the correct single/dual byte functions.

If it were me, I'd try to get the 4 Cmd protocol slightly differently, because I prefer the drop down boxes in RM, and because I like to try things. I would use RM, telling it that the remote was one which has 4 Cmd built in (e.g. Comcast). You'll have 4 Cmds available. Look at the output tab, and you'll see that no protocol upgrade is necessary, because the remote has it built-in.

Next, switch to the remote type to 8910. The 4 Cmds are still available, but if you look at the output tab, you'll see that protocol upgrade 01 7F is required. I think this should work to allow you to use RM, and get 4 Cmd capability.