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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21234 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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It would appear that Sagem has used different codes for the different STBs, so even though the codes that you learned had good solid info, Redstar had already tested them with his own Harmony and found that they didn't work.
If there is a way for you to load Redstar's learned signals into your Harmony by pretending to be him (I guess you'd need to share ids and passwords privately), you could then learn them from your Harmony using your JP1 tools to see what the signals look like. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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UEI has 10 Sagem devices. Most of them are variations of the two files that Alan posted, Nec1, 135.94 and Nec1 134.15.
There are two notable exceptions, the 1253 and the 1114. The functions below are given in EFC's.
You might want to try these too.
Cable/Sat 1253
pid 005A
fixed 20 9E 8F
Protocol NEC1
dev1 134
dev2 14
num 0 242
num 1 205
num 2 209
num 3 207
num 4 211
num 5 204
num 6 208
num 7 206
num 8 210
num 9 077
Vol+ 076
Vol- 080
Mute 014
Ch+ 082
Ch- 017
Power 145
Menu 141
Guide 143
Up 079
Down 083
Left 015
Right 019
Info 016
Cable/Sat 1114
pid 0176
fixed 00 0D 40
Protocol _pid: $0176
num 0 018
num 1 010
num 2 034
num 3 026
num 4 242
num 5 234
num 6 002
num 7 250
num 8 082
num 9 074
Vol+ 106
Vol- 130
Mute 058
Ch+ 050
Ch- 042
Power 146
Menu 210
Guide
Up 050
Down 042
Left 090
Right 098
Info 122 |
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alanrichey Expert
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA |
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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The Robman wrote: | If there is a way for you to load Redstar's learned signals into your Harmony by pretending to be him (I guess you'd need to share ids and passwords privately), you could then learn them from your Harmony using your JP1 tools to see what the signals look like. |
Happy to do that. For Redstar: Just change your password temporarily, then tell me your username and the new password and I will try it. |
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RedStar73
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi alanrichey,
PM just sent,
a huge thanks 4 u all Guys 4 ur Help |
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alanrichey Expert
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA |
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: |
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And it seemed like such a clever idea What we had both forgotten is that the Harmony profile stores the model of your Harmony (I have a 659 and you have an 885) and so when I logged in it prompted me to change your profile to a 659. Which I didn't do of course as it may have been catastrophic.
Not sure where we go from here, but my next suggestion is that you create a new Harmony account, and just put the Sagem box in the Devices. Then I can log onto it and happily tell it to change the Remote to my 659, without risking your primary setup. All we lose is the Custom Button mapping. It will mean some work, as you will have to learn all the commands again. Although as I understand it, a call to Logitech support will get you a 'cloned' account, which we can then play around with, which will be less work.
Over to you
Al |
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RedStar73
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I just made a new Account(PM Sent), and used the Learn Function, hope it works
thanks alot for ur Help |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21234 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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If it does, it opens up a whole new channel on how we can help Slingbox users, who have a Harmony, to get new BIN files. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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alanrichey Expert
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:53 am Post subject: |
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RedStar73 wrote: | I just made a new Account(PM Sent), and used the Learn Function, hope it works |
No PM received here ?
Al |
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RedStar73
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I sent a new PM, but if u did not get it, then plz use
the same password,
Usernname: Hanibaal2k3
many thanks in advance |
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alanrichey Expert
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:33 am Post subject: |
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PM received this time thanks
Good news: Our idea worked, the device loaded onto my Harmony OK.
Bad news: When I try to learn the codes using IRSCOPE it is not coming up with a recognised protocol.
Rob: Is there any information you can get out of IRSCOPE (the .ict) file that would enable you to find the protocol/device ID ? |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Is there any information you can get out of IRSCOPE (the .ict) file that would enable you to find the protocol/device ID ? |
All the information that we need for the rawtimings is in there, its just not in the most convenient form.
Just like any other protocol decode you'll need to learn as many keys as possible. Put together a Txt file that contains the name of each key, followed by the information from its ict file. Looking at the raw timings we can find the lead-in, lead-out and repeat style.
Since you can't decode it, my guess is it uses the protocol in the Cable/Sat 1114 upgrade. That's the only one that doesn't a NEC format. |
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alanrichey Expert
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Any idea how I can break out the information from the ICT file ? The only option in the program is to view it graphically, but the numbers all overlap so it is impossible to read. And although the ICT files show up in the \Program Files\IRScope\ folder when you select the View option, when I look there in File Explorer, even with Hidden files selected, there is nothing there.
Baffled
Al |
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | And although the ICT files show up in the \Program Files\IRScope\ folder when you select the View option, when I look there in File Explorer, even with Hidden files selected, there is nothing there. |
Are you using Vista? Irscope isn't vista compliant. Vista hides these files in a hidden "store". You can find it, but its very hard. An easier solution would be to move the software out of the "Programs files" folder. Vista is a really nasty operating system. |
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alanrichey Expert
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 3529 Location: UK/USA |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, that was it. I had already moved RemoteMaster out, IRSCOPE now follows it
Just as a test, I've learnt the "2" key the "Power-Toggle" and the "Up_Arrow" and put the ICT file at:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6840
If this is enough to figure out the Protocol and Device Code we can try the keycodes of other Sagem models. If that fails I will have to learn the lot
If it isn't enough data let me know. And if you could explain how you get the protocol ID and Device Code I would be grateful.
Al |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21234 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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freq: 48k-50k
leadin: n/a
leadout: -92,200 uS
1 pair: +200 -200
0 pair: -200 +200
format
10100 00101 00000101 -92200 = 2
10100 00101 00010110 -92200 = power
10100 00101 00011001 -92200 = up arrow _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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