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radunn
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 Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: Phantom Buttons not working (OFA-9910) |
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First I thank everyone for the past support; I've learned alot. My current issue is applying phantom buttons in macros for samsung TV via IR.
Upgrade file (Samsung LN46A550): http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=5513
My unsuccessful IR macros are: [M1] AUX (samsung TV);Power;Phantom1 (select component1);CBL;Power and [M3] AUX (TV);Power;Phantom2;RCVR/AMP;Power;DVD;Power. When Macro1/3 is pressed I want the TV to change to Component1 (M1-phatom1) and HDMI1 (M3-phantom2). As of now TV remains at last mode. In advance thanks!
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Next step, try programming the discrete functions to regular buttons and then try the macros, also try the buttons by themselves to see if the discrete codes themselves work.
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radunn
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| The Robman wrote: | | Next step, try programming the discrete functions to regular buttons and then try the macros, also try the buttons by themselves to see if the discrete codes themselves work. |
How do I do this? I have select Component1 on Phantom1 - select HDMI1 on Phantom 2 in RemoteMaster; not unless you mean use the assigned keys in the macros? Would this eliminate the phantoms?
I assigned Select Component1 to STOP (M1) / HDMI1 to REC (M3); adding the keys to the macro(s). Neither macro works.
Via Macro(s), I'd like to be able for the TV to change modes: Component1/HDMI etc for M1 and RCVR/AMP switch to AV1 (video1) for M3 button.
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Capn Trips
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Rob asked you if you have tested those discrete functions alone? Do you know that they work?
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| If those functions do work, you likely just need more delay after powering on the tv. One way would be to delete phantom1 from m1, and add TV;phantom1 to the end of m1. If that provides enough delay, do the same to m3. If that doesn't work, assign component1 to a real button so you can experiment. Then press TV, power and see how long you need to wait before pressing your component1 button works. Now you can load the pause protocol and use the delay time you determined manually (that's another discussion). |
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| radunn wrote: | | I assigned Select Component1 to STOP (M1) / HDMI1 to REC (M3); adding the keys to the macro(s). Neither macro works. |
Does pressing the STOP and REC buttons select the right input? This question is to determine if you're using the right codes, if pressing the buttons doesn't work, you need to find the right codes.
If pressing the buttons works, but using them in macros doesn't, sometimes changing the order of things in the macro will help, or putting a meaningless button in between other buttons will help. Some buttons just don't work well in macros, so some experimentation is needed to find a sequence that will work.
Another possibility is that you need a long hold of the button and the macro is giving you a short hold. To test this, once you've verified that the buttons themselves work, try creating a macro that has just one step, that being either the STOP or REC button, and see if that works. If it doesn't, then it's not the sequence that's the problem, it's probably the duration.
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radunn
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The Robman wrote: | | radunn wrote: | | I assigned Select Component1 to STOP (M1) / HDMI1 to REC (M3); adding the keys to the macro(s). Neither macro works. |
Does pressing the STOP and REC buttons select the right input? |
These work instantly as soon as pressed.
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If pressing the buttons works, but using them in macros doesn't, sometimes changing the order of things in the macro will help, or putting a meaningless button in between other buttons will help. Some buttons just don't work well in macros, so some experimentation is needed to find a sequence that will work. |
I added SWAP button between Power/Play at m1: TV;Power;(swap);play, deleting CBL;Power.....does not work | Quote: |
Another possibility is that you need a long hold of the button and the macro is giving you a short hold. To test this, once you've verified that the buttons themselves work, try creating a macro that has just one step, that being either the STOP or REC button, and see if that works. If it doesn't, then it's not the sequence that's the problem, it's probably the duration. |
Creating the one-step macro does not work either; most likely it IS the duration. Thanks
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Have you tried to send the same function twice successively in a macro? Sometimes a simple fix like that will work.
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There are ways to extend the duration in macros, but I've never used any of them so someone else would need to step you through the process. I believe the main one is the "Device Combiner with Duration".
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Device combiner allows one to extend the duration of any function in the DC upgrade, but it is limited to 1-byte functions. Haven't looked at the Samsung upgrade to see if it qualifies.
Any duration setting in a DC upgrade applies all of the time, not just in macros. It might be the simplest solution for the OP.
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radunn
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Capn Trips wrote: | | Device combiner allows one to extend the duration of any function in the DC upgrade, but it is limited to 1-byte functions. Haven't looked at the Samsung upgrade to see if it qualifies. |
If you find out please let me know how to go about it; thanks!!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Radunn, Your device uses Nec2 protocol, so you can use DC to extend the duration BUT before we send you down that road I'd like to see your IR file to make sure you haven't made a beginners mistake in putting together your macros.
Post your IR file in the diagnosis area, and post a LINK to that file here. |
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radunn
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Vicky thank you. File link > http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6627
I removed the Phantom macro inserts from the current IR file. Phantom1 (select component 1) was inserted after AUX (device button/samsung TV);Power at M1. M3's (not included) Phantom2 (select HDMI 1) was similar to M1 phantom insert. Again thanks
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Radun, I see that you have diligently cleaned up after yourself so there is no clue as to what your keymoves looked like, on either the STOP or the Phantom button.
However if I was putting this macro together, I'd at the very least move the device selection to after the Cbl,Power, Aux, Phantom because its not unusual for devices to need a few seconds after powering on to respond to the next command.
If that isn't enough, I'd do a pause into the macro, by either creating a pause protocol and device in RM or KM or using the old Zenith trick. |
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radunn
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| vickyg2003 wrote: | | However if I was putting this macro together, I'd at the very least move the device selection to after the Cbl,Power, Aux, Phantom because its not unusual for devices to need a few seconds after powering on to respond to the next command. |
Ok, when I add Phantom 1 etc., or Stop/Rec to the macro, should it follow the device key or is it not needed? i.e. AUX;Phantom1/Stop or just phantom1 or stop
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If that isn't enough, I'd do a pause into the macro, by either creating a pause protocol and device in RM or KM or using the old Zenith trick. |
This is what I aim to do; can you assist me in doing so? In advance thanks!
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