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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:50 pm    Post subject: Hidden discrete codes for newer Sony OLED TVs Reply with quote

2000+ keystroke trials earned me these discrete codes on the A80J Sony:

Sony 20, dev 31, subdev 64

OBC EFC5 Function
005 00015 Disney+ 00015 5
004 00019 Prime Video 00019 4
008 00146 YouTube Music 00146 8

Sony 12/15, dev 26

OBC EFC5 Function
090 00224 HDMI 1
091 00220 HDMI 2
092 00227 HDMI 3
093 00223 HDMI 4
088 00226 Bravia Sync
101 00255 "Control your cable box"

Apologies if this has been posted before.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Hidden discrete codes for newer Sony OLED TVs Reply with quote

I tested on my KD-55AF9 (Germany).

jetstar52 wrote:

Sony 20, dev 31, subdev 64

OBC EFC5 Function
005 00015 Disney+ 00015 5
004 00019 Prime Video 00019 4
008 00146 YouTube Music 00146 8

All these generated a message saying that the app has been disabled. But that is probably the reason why they are not documented...

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Sony 12/15, dev 26

OBC EFC5 Function
090 00224 HDMI 1
091 00220 HDMI 2
092 00227 HDMI 3
093 00223 HDMI 4
088 00226 Bravia Sync
101 00255 "Control your cable box"

(Should be Sony15, not Sony 12/15) To my knowledge, these are not "hidden" but "well known". "Bravia sync" is some CEC-Excercise (at least I think so), and the last one show the local USB-disk; it is even present on my standard remote ("title list").

This is my list of commands for the AF9.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the streaming codes. As Barf said, the BS (Bravia sync) codes have been known for a long time. They're in an upgrade I made a decade ago. All are Sony15, not 12/15. Here are some more BS transport control commands and a couple that overlap your list. My EFCs won't make any sense because I use a combo protocol (12/15/20).

Code:
Name          OBC   Protocol   Device
BS-Theater     96   Sony15   119
BS-Rewind      27   Sony15   151
BS-Pause       25   Sony15   151
BS-Play        26   Sony15   151
BS-FF          28   Sony15   151
BS-Sync Menu   88   Sony15   26
BS-Prev        60   Sony15   151
BS-Stop        24   Sony15   151
BS-Next        61   Sony15   151
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. The factory remote has this transport command as well:

Name OBC Protocol Device

Record 32 Sony15 151
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:20 pm    Post subject: Directly select HDMI devices via EFC? Reply with quote

Hi all, similar question on an A80J. All codes work fine, but since I have a PS3 connected to HDMI3 via CEC as well as a FireStick, the HDMI3 command by default selects (and powers up) the PS3, even if I'm selecting HDMI3 to go to Firestick, which is always on. I noticed the Input menu on the TV has discrete "PlayerN" labels for the HDMI3 devces. This is a long shot, but is there any way to select these "Player" devices directly with an EFC?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy adapters to disable the cec signal on the one device:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3519243.m570.l1313&_nkw=hdmi+cec-less&_sacat=0
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaskedMan wrote:
You can buy adapters to disable the cec signal on the one device:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3519243.m570.l1313&_nkw=hdmi+cec-less&_sacat=0



Thanks! I figured out that I could hit the INPUT button and arrow right once and it's 2 presses instead of 1 but hey...

In the process, I noticed I can't learn Sony remote codes from the original A80J Sony remote using any of my XSight 18s. I had heard it was an RF remote, that might be why.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try looking at the Sony remote through your cellphone camera, digital cameras can "see" IR signals, so you will see a flashing if it's sending an IR signal. Of course, if it doesn't even have an IR window or visible IR-LED then yeah, it's probably RF or Bluetooth.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
Try looking at the Sony remote through your cellphone camera, digital cameras can "see" IR signals, so you will see a flashing if it's sending an IR signal. Of course, if it doesn't even have an IR window or visible IR-LED then yeah, it's probably RF or Bluetooth.


Good point! The camera shows nothing. Now I'm curious how the guy who posted the A80J in the file section got all those IR codes. Does he have an oscilloscope?

Thanks, Robman, for keeping this site going for so many years. It's a wonderful resource I keep returning to over and over again. Just when I think all my remotes are exactly as they should be, I think of some other way I could put them to work.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

landolfi wrote:
Good point! The camera shows nothing. Now I'm curious how the guy who posted the A80J in the file section got all those IR codes. Does he have an oscilloscope?

He has nimble fingers...

jetstar52 wrote:
2000+ keystroke trials earned me these discrete codes on the A80J Sony

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetstar52 wrote:
2000+ keystroke trials earned me these discrete codes on the A80J Sony


Back on the original topic, I just found this. Apparently some Sony remotes can function in BT or IR mode:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=102956

I can confirm that if I disable Bluetooth, the remote sends IR and the Xsight can learn IR commands from it. Bluetooth is required for Google Assistant.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
Try looking at the Sony remote through your cellphone camera, digital cameras can "see" IR signals, so you will see a flashing if it's sending an IR signal. Of course, if it doesn't even have an IR window or visible IR-LED then yeah, it's probably RF or Bluetooth.


I have a newish (bought it after Xmas year before last) X85J, here's the upgrade

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26427

The original remote is BOTH IR and BT. Out of the box it's IR, but once you pair it to the TV, it's BT. So, I had to unpair it from the TV to generate the upgrade for the Xsight.
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