JP1 Remotes

jeajea · Joined: 24 Feb 2010 Posts: 283 Location: USA

My issue with macros on the internal device buttons is that when switching devices, I don't want any macro associated with the other devices to execute.
For example, going from TV to BLU I don't want the STB macro to run.

I also considered shifted device and decided it was too confusing for other users.

The "too many" button problem is actually that the button labels don't match the original remote.

Can the 7880 blu-ray be used to control devices such as Android TV boxes that don' have IR input?
Currently I buy a flirc-usb that adds $23 for each TV box.

https://flirc.tv/more/flirc-usb
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Jim Anderson

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

mathdon · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:32 pm Post subject:

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

jeajea · Joined: 24 Feb 2010 Posts: 283 Location: USA

I didn't actually try putting macros on multiple 7880 internal device buttons.
I was unware there was a built in delay.
However, depending on the delay built into the remote isn't very fool proof.

I don't understand the issue with using a device button with a macro in another macro.
Remotes without an extender usually don't execute mested macros.

The B01 and B03 (003 was a typo) do look the same from the front.
It may even be possible to use B03 to "repair" buttons on a B01.

There are at least two versions of the B03.
The one I linked has the backlight feature.
The other version has blue volume and channel buttons and no backlight.
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Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

StephenR0 · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 109 Location: Iowa, US

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

mathdon · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:46 am Post subject:

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

StephenR0 · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 109 Location: Iowa, US

So, when I tried this, since I couldn't get macros on the devices, I put DSMs on the input key. This worked very well, but it does take an extra key. In the end I went back to using activities and put a tv power macro on the input key. I find that I'm just as irritated by the activity power key as you are. An extender for this remote would be very welcome. If I could have device macros and an ability to have a macro return to the device before it was called, I would be happy. I would have no idea where to start to write one, though.

mathdon · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:27 pm Post subject:

Ed · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 262 Location: Ft. Worth, TX

Well, I've begun to dig into my 7880 and had a couple observations and questions. I've added the extender (versions 1 and 2) and apart from a stupid mistake (documented here), that went well. Then I began adding device upgrades and building macros to operate my living room setup. This setup consists of a TCL Roku TV, a Yamaha RX-V385 receiver, a Raspberry Pi 3b running OSMC (Kodi), and a Samsung BluRay player. The Pi is powered on all the time and is controlled by a FLIRC that I've mapped between Kodi and IR functions in a Samsung TV upgrade.

The first thing I did was confirm that you can't put macros on a device or shifted device key. As noted, that's a shame.

I had some questions/observations for Graham on how RMIR works:

It allows you to put a global or device specific macro on a device key (but not a shifted device key) when it probably should not. I've not tested if a DSM will work on a device key but I'm guessing it does not.

It won't allow a controlled macro (global or DSM) on an activity key. Normal macros are allowed on activity keys.

It allows a normal macro to be bound to a shifted activity key, but they don't work. Shifted activity keys seem inaccessible; i.e., you can assign functions to them in RMIR, but you can't access those functions in a macro or by "pressing" the shifted activity key directly; i.e., Magic, then repeated presses of Activity until the proper activity is lit. There's also no way to set up key groups for shifted activies.

So, I thought I'd pause my work with this remote and see what kind of experiences others have had.

Here is the basic idea of what I'm aiming to do

Set up macros on the "WatchTV", "WatchMovie", and "Custom" activities. I would plan to make judicious use of controlled macros to speed things up when possible and slow them down when necessary.

WatchTV would turn on the TV and receiver, and turn off the BluRay player, all via discrete commands (faking a discrete off on the Samsung with Play, Power) and configure inputs and outputs for the TV and receiver. Key 3 would define the button group assignments.

WatchMovie would turn on the TV, Receiver, and BluRay via discretes (Play for BluRay). Nothing needs to be turned off in this case. Inputs to the receiver and TV would be configured for BluRay viewing. "Key 2" would define the button group assignments.

Custom would turn on the TV and receiver and turn off the BluRay player with discretes. Key 2 would define the button group assignments. The RPi (or the Samsung TV upgrade that controls the RPi via FLIRC) is classified as a "Media" device with Key 2 defining the button groups.

I would assign discrete off commands to the power key for the TV and the receiver and power toggle to the power key for the BluRay player. In this way, I think I could reclaim the power key on the remote to shut off devices that are assigned in an activity. There is not discrete off for the BluRay, so may cause some consternation.

I would also want to have DSMs to move between Roku applications while in "WatchTV" mode.

There are almost certainly several other things I'd do, but if I can get the above working, I believe I'd have a remote that's pretty competitive with my OAR, should it ever quit on me.