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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: LK IR 180 CR Dimmer? Pronto conversion? Reply with quote

Hello all!

Now I'm in control of my A/V equipment, I want to control my dimmer too. The manufacturer provides the following codes for their "IHC system", which is a complete home automation solution, but I suspect the codes to work with the dimmer as well. Unfortunately the codes are for pronto remote. Does anybody know, if it's possible to convert them to RM format?

Regards
Rasmus

Button 1: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014
0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 2: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 3: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 4: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 5: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 6: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 7: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 8: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 9: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 10: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 11: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 12: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 13: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 14: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 15: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 07d0

Button 16: 0000 0009 0000 0023 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0069 0014 0032 0014 00c3 0014 0069 0014 07d0


1. Device: LK IR 180 CR
2. Type of device: Touch / IR Dimmer
3. Year: 2007
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: Dreambox 7020-S URC-39730 B02-00
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? No
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? No
10. Learning remote question? No, I don't have a learner.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an unusual signal. Here's the scoop:

freq: 460 kHz
1 = +44 -228
2 = +44 -109
3 = +44 -424
leadout = +44 -4348

Here's the signal format:

Button 01: 1231111111111111111111111111111111
Button 02: 1112311111111111111111111111111111
Button 03: 1111123111111111111111111111111111
Button 04: 1111111231111111111111111111111111
Button 05: 1111111112311111111111111111111111
Button 06: 1111111111123111111111111111111111
Button 07: 1111111111111231111111111111111111
Button 08: 1111111111111112311111111111111111
Button 09: 1111111111111111123111111111111111
Button 10: 1111111111111111111231111111111111
Button 11: 1111111111111111111112311111111111
Button 12: 1111111111111111111111123111111111
Button 13: 1111111111111111111111111231111111
Button 14: 1111111111111111111111111112311111
Button 15: 1111111111111111111111111111123111
Button 16: 1111111111111111111111111111111231

I know it's been a while, but if you still want a JP1 upgrade, let me know and I'll try to write one.
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zulfi



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Rob!

Yes, I'm still here...

I would love if you were able to create an update - and I will test it asap.

Regards
Rasmus
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Rob, I got to where you got.

I'm guessing you are going to have to write assembler to accomplish this. These are really the kind of upgrades that interest me.

I'd like you to "think out loud" on this one. If it requires assembly, I'll commit to the JP1.2 version.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because this signal has an outrageously high carrier frequency, my intention is to first create an upgrade without assembler that replicates the signal for one button and then have Rasmus test it, because if that doesn't work there's no point in continuing.

Assuming we can get that to work, the next step is to write assembler. We could do it without assembler, but it would take 5 bytes of code per button.

I haven't decided yet whether to send the signal manually or to try and format the signal correctly and let the IR engine send it. I don't know which is easier and more to the point, which takes less code.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if it is important, but my remote is exchanged to a URC-7781, which is a JP1.2 remote...

I look forward to test the upgrade from you gentlemen...

Regards
Rasmus
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does make a difference because the only assembler language that I can write in is S3C8 (never bothered to learn the others), but as Vicky has promised to convert anything that I write into HCS08 also, you'll still be covered.

Vicky, I was thinking of trying to do this by using a mid-stream burst to create the 3rd pair, but looking at it further, I don't think that's possible, so I will be using assembler logic to format the signal.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: Dreambox 7020-S URC-39730 B02-00
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes


Since you posted this in October, and have since changed remotes, do you actually have a JP1.2 compatible cable to go allong with the new JP1.2 remote?

There are a lot of differences between JP1.2 remotes, its not just limited to language and chips.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, yes - I have the cable. It was the first thing made when the new remote was bought. Without the cable the remote is useless, so to speak... Wink

Besides, I still have the old remote, so if it's easiest to create the update for that, I will be able to test it anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Rasmus,
I finally got around to trying to create an upgrade for you. This one is only programmed for your old Dreambox remote, but if it works, we'll try to convert it to HCS08 code for your URC-7781.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6502
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
Hey Rasmus,
I finally got around to trying to create an upgrade for you....


Hi Rob!

Thanks a lot. I have tested the upgrade, but I get the same result, as when I tried another home automation upgrade found on hifi-remote.

When the dimmer enters the programming state (this is neccessary in order to get the dimmer to know which button to respond to), the dimmer flashes the lamp on and off. When pressing a button on the remote, the dimmer responds by turning down the light to a very dimmed, but constant level.

After this, the remote is supposed to work, but when I press the button on the remote, the light doesn't turn on/off - it just flickers slightly.

I guess this means the dimmer can see the signal, but it is not the correct signal, or maybe the dimmer is defective.

I am thankful, that you gave it a shot. Unless you have another great idea, I now think I will buy the remote, even though it is expensive and ugly and I need it only for 5 minutes to learn the signal. If I get that far, I will of course upload an upgrade...

You can see it here in the users guide http://www1.lk.dk/katalog/vejledning/97208_01.pdf

It is in danish, but you can see the pictures... Smile

Thanks for trying and happy easter
/Rasmus

EDIT: BTW, the BEO4 remote mentioned in this thread
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10550&highlight=b+o
, should be able to control my dimmer. LK and B&O are sharing some knowhow, including type of remote signal, but unfortunately I don't know an owner of the BEO4... Sad
It is supposed to be the "light" button, and then one of the four coloured buttons...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think the BEO4 remote will work with your dimmer, we have an upgrade for the BEO4 here:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=72

I will try capturing the signals from my upgrade using my Pronto to see if I get the same pronto hex as above.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have now bought the remote, and made an upgrade which can be found here:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6563

What do you say, Rob? Were we even close?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, those pronto codes that you posted must be for something else.

Do you still have your IR file with the learned signals in it, if so can I see it?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm - then my guess was wrong. Then the remote for LK's home automation system doesn't work for their dimmer as well...

The learned file is here:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=6565

Regards
Rasmus

EDIT:
I forgot to mention, that all your work, including all the tools and the knowhow is really awesome. This site is in deed a gift to all OFA-remote fans... Thanks! Smile
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