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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:12 am
by alanrichey
OK, missed that. Yes, runs OK from the Start Menu and glad to report the cell editing is working fine now.
And the popup window in the Buttons TAB now only seems to appear on a double-click ? If that was intentional it is much better behaviour, I like it.
Thanks. Sorry for all the hassle, but I still think I will stick with the standalone EXE file for my final installation

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:28 am
by The Robman
So, the file association is the only issue remaining, right? If that gets fixed also, why would you continue to use the exe version (with it's HUGE download file) rather than the standard java version?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:43 am
by alanrichey
Because it's easy
I would just prefer not to have to have the admin aspect switched on, I was quite happy without it before. Although I suppose that having gone through it once I can now just overwrite the files with the new ones.
And at 11Mb the size of the Download is not an issue for me, I was just looking at the Qt SDK for my Nokia phone and the download there is 850Mb. Now THAT is what I call a huge download

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:59 am
by gfb107
alanrichey wrote:OK, missed that. Yes, runs OK from the Start Menu and glad to report the cell editing is working fine now.
Good. Now we know exactly what the problem is, which is critical to actually fixing it.
And the popup window in the Buttons TAB now only seems to appear on a double-click ? If that was intentional it is much better behaviour, I like it.
Yes, it was intentional.
Thanks. Sorry for all the hassle, but I still think I will stick with the standalone EXE file for my final installation

I hope you'll hang in with me a little longer. I want to try a few more things so that it isn't this hard, and you won't actually need admin rights for this.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:43 am
by gfb107
Here's something to try.
- Make sure you are logged in without admin privileges
- Delete the Remote Master folder from Start > Programs
- Start > Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt (right click and select "Run as Administrator" )
- (or what ever your installation folder is, if there are spaces in the folder name, you must surround the folder name with double quotes)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:59 am
by alanrichey
Yes, that worked.
And just to confirm, if I tried the same without selecting "Run as Administrator" then it failed as before.
Also, I didn't need to put the folder name in quotes, even though there are spaces in them.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:13 am
by gfb107
OK, hopefully one last test.
- Log in without admin privileges
- Delete the Remote Master folder from Start > Programs
- Save SetupAsAdmin.vbs to your installation folder
- Double-click SetupAsAdmin.vbs
- You should get a Run As permissions dialog. Not sure what it looks like under Vista. Under XP, there's a checkbox under "Current user" to "Protect my computer and data from unauthorised program activity". If you have that, make sure it is not checked. Otherwise, choose the Admin user. Click OK
- Let me know what happened
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:19 am
by The Robman
alanrichey wrote:I would just prefer not to have to have the admin aspect switched on, I was quite happy without it before.
You just needed admin rights to fix some of the mess that the Nokia stuff had created, you don't need to be an admin to run RM (I use it all the time and my regular account is not an admin either).
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:38 am
by alanrichey
gfb107 wrote:OK, hopefully one last test.
- Log in without admin privileges
- Delete the Remote Master folder from Start > Programs
- Save SetupAsAdmin.vbs to your installation folder
- Double-click SetupAsAdmin.vbs
- You should get a Run As permissions dialog. Not sure what it looks like under Vista. Under XP, there's a checkbox under "Current user" to "Protect my computer and data from unauthorised program activity". If you have that, make sure it is not checked. Otherwise, choose the Admin user. Click OK
- Let me know what happened
Worked fine. It just popped the standard User Access Control (UAC) window asking me to confirm I was happy to run the script. It now behaves like every other program that I try and install. Well done
And I don't think you can blame this on Nokia, Rob. The UAC is the standard way in Vista to bypass the admin requirement.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:47 am
by The Robman
I thought you said that your Nokia phone had changed some of the file associations, etc. All I know is that I didn't have any problems getting RM to run on Vista or Win7.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:13 am
by alanrichey
But it still didn't work even with the association switched, so that was secondary to the main problem which was that Setup.vbs did not invoke the UAC.
Anyway, all done now.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:50 am
by gfb107
The .jar association is still broken on alanrichey's system.
So he still can't double-click RemoteMaster.jar. But now he has shortcuts in Start > Programs > Remote Master for RM, RMIR, the Readme and Tutorial.
From now on, these shortcuts are the way for users to start RM/RMIR, instead of RemoteMaster.jar. Users who want to can send the shortcuts to their Desktop, and/or copy them to the Quick Launch toolbar.
Double-clicking .rmdu and .rmir files will also automatically start RM/RMIR.
Thinking about dropping the Windows native package unless I get specific requests for it.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:46 am
by alanrichey
Hang on, not quite there yet. Just to make sure I uninstalled all versions of RM and loaded a new copy of 1.99c into a new folder. I also made sure the file association for JAR was the Java binary.
SetupAsAdmin.vbs now runs and it sets up the Shortcuts in the Start Menu but if I use them I get the "Unable to access jarfile: RemoteMaster.jar" message.
And I see that .rmdu files are not associated with RM either.
It appears that SetupAsAdmin.vbs is only partially working when it runs Setup.vbs a as child process, as when I run Setup.vbs under the Command line with "Run as Administrator" it all works.
It appears the shortcut creation is now working, but the file associations is failing.
Sorry
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:59 am
by The Robman
I wouldn't completely abandon the EXE version because there may still be people out there who don't have authority to set up the JRE on their machines (which was the case for me for a long time on my work PC).
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:46 pm
by gfb107
Another version of
SetupAsAdmin.vbs to try.