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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:46 am
by alanrichey
vickyg2003 wrote:Shay, thanks for posting the picture, I think that may have helped. Alan has recorded a "next" and "back" function from the Harmony database, and he logically them on the page+ and page- buttons. On your picture I see "back" but I don't see a "next" button on your remote, so I'm guessing that the "next" button is really the little "->|" button.
Vicky: Ignore this picture, it is the default remote that Sling have designed for
http://remotes.slingbox.com and has nothing to do with the work we do. Red Herring

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:02 am
by alanrichey
OK, seeing the picture of the Moxi Remote makes it all sense now. Although you say that you don't have a Chapter Prev/Next the symbol used on the circled buttons is the industry standard for those commands. And now we have additional buttons underneath for Replay & Skip.
Now, the problem is that there is a bug in the Default remote, which Sling refuse to fix, that disables the skip/replay buttons. Now normally this isn't a problem as most boxes don't have both sets.
So I have the following functions available, and remember I have no clue what they actually do, I just pulled them off the database and where I have put them on the default remote.
Skip+ mapped to the 'Next Track' button.
Skip- mapped to the 'Prev Track' button
Next mapped to the Page+ button
Back mapped to the Page- button
Jump not mapped anywhere yet, hence my question
So accepting that the skip buttons on the default remote are disabled, are these mappings logical and where do you want the Jump command put.
HOWEVER, I have just realised that Sling have produced a realistic Remote skin for Moxi boxes so let me work on that - back soon
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:49 am
by vickyg2003
Alan, thanks for setting me straight. I thought that WAS the Moxi.

, Seeing the real moxi did make a lot of sense especially when looking at the upgrade that had function labels that matched the moxi remote.
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6880
I saw that the skip and replay matched your skip- and skip+. I was just trying to figure out where to go from there.
OBC Function
132 Back
040 Next
038 Skip
039 Replay
017 Jump
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:14 am
by alanrichey
OK, here is the first attempt

I've uploaded 2 new BIN Files at
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=9232
As usual, put them in the \SBAV\ folder, then re-run the Video sources setup using
Cable
Moxi
Other
C1114
Any good ?
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:28 pm
by shay
Alan, let me try your new file. Thanks again for all of your help. Do I owe any answers now?
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:45 pm
by shay
That skin does look the moxi remote. The next and previous are advancing and reversing the recorded show. Are the buttons sending multiple commands? The reason I am asking it is skipping ahead 15 minutes.
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:54 am
by alanrichey
That is what I would expect from a normal system that is doing Next/Previous Chapter. The length of a chapter is normally part of the setup for the box, I guess yours defaults to 15 minutes.
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:54 am
by shay
Alan, are skip and replay buttons disabled in the file you uploaded? I was not sure if the new skin had the bug like default.
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:34 am
by alanrichey
Not in my file, it looks as though Sling didn't implement them in the skin.
Remember there are always 2 aspects to Remotes, the codes sent to the Slingbox so that when you ask it to send a specific button it sends the correct IR signal. In that respect the BIN file is 100%. The second aspect is mapping each of the commands onto a specific button on the Remote. If that hasn't been done properly you can never trigger the signal.
Your only solution for a fully working remote is to abandon Sling and design your own remote. See the one I designed at:
See
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=8833
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:59 am
by shay
I will take a look. I assume I can start with remote you already built as a starting point, correct? Also how does the sling mobileplayer act with a custom remote?
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:55 am
by alanrichey
Yes, my own preference is used for the default, but it is TOTALLY configurable to your wishes. But it is ONLY for PC/MAC using SlingPlayer/WebSlingPlayer. As discussed in my previous post, the MobilePlayers always use their default remote and if they haven't mapped it properly from the codes it will be wrong. If you read the
http://answers.slingbox.com forum you will lots of complaints about wrong/missing buttons, particularly with the Android version. They made a bit of a hash of it.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:09 am
by Noirfire
alanrichey wrote:Not in my file, it looks as though Sling didn't implement them in the skin.
Remember there are always 2 aspects to Remotes, the codes sent to the Slingbox so that when you ask it to send a specific button it sends the correct IR signal. In that respect the BIN file is 100%. The second aspect is mapping each of the commands onto a specific button on the Remote. If that hasn't been done properly you can never trigger the signal.
Your only solution for a fully working remote is to abandon Sling and design your own remote. See the one I designed at:
See
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=8833
Hi Alan,
I am trying to create a skin for the PL.bin you created but I'm having a problem with the Zoom key (OBC 80). Whats happening is no matter what I name it or where I map it, it just duplicating another keys action. So at the moment it doing PVR even though I have resigned it from setup to FP1 and called it ZoOM.
I wondering if it's where I'm swapping it from US PL to JB PL and this is coursing the problem?
I was going to try and rebuild the remote from scratch to see if that helped bu t I noticed that I don't have Protocol Pid: 01 2A to be able to do this.
Any suggestion on how I might be able to solve this issue I would be very grateful...
Thanks
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:15 am
by alanrichey
A couple of worrying points here. You talk about FP1, but the latest RDFs don't use that. And I am not aware of anything using the JB Protocol.
So I need a bit more information.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:37 am
by Noirfire
A couple of worrying points here. You talk about FP1, but the latest RDFs don't use that. And I am not aware of anything using the JB Protocol.
So I need a bit more information.
Hey Alan,
thanx for the reply, so are you saying there's newer RDF's which don't have keymaps FP1-10 in the Buttons Tab? or are they just not being used anymore?
I'm using the RDF's that where given to me with 'RemoteMaster Device Upgrade Editor, v2.02 Beta'
The JB chipset is in use for all Non US and Asian Pro-HD's, so it has a large coverage. The box I'm trying to set this up on in Canada this has a JB Chipset to be honest it suprised me, as I thought it would be the same as the US.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:28 am
by alanrichey
The old RDF files have a lot of bugs in. I built a new set at
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=7201
But it doesn't include JB, maybe it is compatible with PL ?