JP1 Remotes

[ElizabethD]

Prey tell what is SCREEN BUTTONS?
I have PgUp and PgDn so tried them right now, but nothing moves.
AHA! I was doing it on the notes dialog. I now see there are Up and Down buttons in Action on item selected section. Didn't notice them before.
So what do those Up and Down buttons on the notes dialog do?
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Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride

[vickyg2003]

[mathdon]

[mathdon]

IRScope 2.01 Beta 2 posted.

I have posted a second beta version of IRScope 2.01. This includes some substantial additions to the features of the first beta, which itself was significantly enhanced beyond IRScope 2.00. The additions new in Beta 2 include:

* The export mode "Pronto from decode" is now active (it was grayed out in the first Beta).

* A Summary display is now available, which can be saved either as a Rich Text Format (.rtf) file or as plain text (.txt).

* There is now an Import facility that can import UEI Learned and Pronto formats and also Timing Lists of the form displayed by the Times Summary of the Learned Signals tab of IR.exe and by the new Summary facility of this program.

* Two new options on the Advanced menu that address specific requests. If Select on Capture is checked (the "Gary option") then the decode or decodes resulting from any capture are automatically selected (highlighted), which simplifies the addition of notes for the new capture. If Common Output Folder is checked (the "Vicky option") then exported signals are written to the "Save" folder rather than to the separate "Export Output" folder.

There is also a change to the folder in which the View button (or File/Open menu) opens. When IRScope is opened or the "Save" folder is changed, the default folder for View is re-set to the "Save" folder. At other times it opens in the folder last used by View.

Both the Summary and Import facilities are available either through the File menu or through new buttons on the main display. Here is an example of the Summary display:



The Summary window can be re-sized and has a check box to turn word wrap on and off. The tab stop positions in the Decodes section correspond to the column widths in the Decodes panel of the main display, so can be adjusted by changing the column widths. The Raw Timing Data gives the times exactly as received by the Widget and as displayed in the Waveform window. The Analysed Timing Data gives the result after processing to identify repeats and to average out the timings of bursts identified as the same. The Timing Lists import mode accepts either form, one signal at a time. Omit the signal number "1:", "2:" etc but copy everything else, including the words Single, Repeat and Extra where they occur.

The Analysed Timing Data is always the result of analysis by IRScope, so if you import a signal in an analysed form, including UEI Learned and Pronto formats, the signal is expanded to a raw timing list for display and is then re-analysed for the Summary listing. The Analysed Timing Data is also the form that will be encoded in an export.

The export mode "Pronto from decode" makes use of MakeHex.dll, included in this package, which is John Fine's MakeHex.exe converted to DLL form. This mode is intended to give a similar capability to the modified version of IRScope issued by garyb.ncc as IRScope2Hex. You need to have MakeHex.exe installed, or at least have its ".irp" files, to use this export option. The matching of decodes to .irp files is by name, but protocol names are converted by IRScope to the form used in .irp files so that with one exception, I believe that every protocol that has a corresponding .irp file will find that file correctly. The one exception is that russound.irp is the file for the DirecTV protocol, as the name of this protocol has been changed since MakeHex was developed. I suggest renaming russound.irp as DirecTV.irp for conformity with DecodeIR and RemoteMaster.

Beta 2 includes all the features I have planned for IRScope v2.01. Please report comments, suggestions and bugs here. As usual, USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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Graham

[vickyg2003]

Gee Graham, I got my own option, Thanks,

I downloaded the project to try the IRP export. The Makehex.dll is included, but apparently I need the Makehex IRP files. Where do I get these?

Edit: I re-read the post and realize I needed to download Makehex.exe and its IRP files. I hadn't explored MAKEHEX before, I can check this out.

I also checked out the VIEW folder, thank-you, thank-you, thank-you. It works PERFECTLY, right down to when I change the save folder, it defaults to that folder. This will eliminate so much navigation for me and its so intuitive.

Edit2: Just tried out the Import function. Another time saver, thanks. Normally if someone posts learns, I have to find a learning remote, download the remote, Cut and paste from the users IR into my IR, upload to my remote, and then shoot them at IRScope. Now its just copy and paste to IRScope. Very, very helpful. This also makes IRScope much more useful to people who do not own a widget.

Edit3: I just checked out the timing summary. This will make it easier to communicate about protocols that didn't decode, but I finally found something that I'd like changed if its not too much trouble. While the Summary code is beautifully layed out, it would be a lot more "user friendly", if not as "pretty" if the notes ( and to a lesser degree, the frequency) were repeated on each line in the analzyed timings. This change would help us if the signal is new unrecognized protocol. This would make it easier to use the same spreadsheets to figure out how to build the protocol, and the list of function obcs.
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[mathdon]

[ElizabethD]

I played with the rich variety of file locations and presets, all action buttons except Import, and several other simple things such as multiple selections, moving, deleting, adding notes, reviewing the signal pictures etc.
Everything works as advertised.
I particularily love the Summary report from which transfer of all learned signals over to KM was a snap. A real upgrade built in under 5 minutes. WOW!
Using an unextended HTPro/8910/9910 I copied the UEI version of exported data over to IR learning tab, assigned few buttons and tested using the "learned" signals. Worked fine. Amazing. Absolutely amazing. OK, Vicky, don't laugh. This was a first for me

I tried playing with the Import button. No idea really how to use it or what's there for me. I took few timing things from IR's learned tab and tried to import into IRscope. Obviously that's not what it's for, 'cause IRscope didn't like "+" in that IR data. I am sure Pronto etc imports will work just fine for people who use it.

The notes copy to the analysed timing would be nice as Vicky said.

One thing puzzles me a little. I have an old IR file of learned signals. It's plain Aiwa. IR displays both the "Sent once when key is pressed" as well as the "Sent repeatedly while key is being held" which has just the LI/LO type of thing, not data.
I repeated learning of this box in IRscope, and everything matches, repeats included.
But when I Exported from IRscope over to a new IR file, the repeated part was not included. Learned signals work so I suppose it's ok, but is it? and is this the way it's supposed to be? I have a hunch there might be a problem if one were to use those copies of learned signals in a macro, things might not work well due to the lack of repeats. What do you think?

Finally, what is the Analyzed timings all about?

That's it for now. More might come later.
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Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride

[mathdon]

[vickyg2003]

[ElizabethD]

[mathdon]

Thanks for the files, Liz. Neither a bug nor user error, merely an inadequate description in my announcement.

Because of the way my detection of repeats works, when repeats are sent as a ditto frame it needs at least 3 dittos for IRScope to recognise them as dittos. Yours all have only 1 or 2 dittos. What is happening is that the dittos are being tagged on to the end of the Single bursts rather than being recognised as a repeat. If you are using the Widget with a real remote, you need a longer keypress.

You can also transfer a learned signal from IR.exe. Open the Edit window in IR.exe Learned Signals, copy the learn and paste it into the Import window in IRScope. That window has a drop-down box to set the number of repeats you want in the imported signal. The default is 3, precisely because of this issue.

Give one of these a try. It should resolve the problem.
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Graham

[ElizabethD]

Yikes! It's there in IR, the repeats, right in front of my face. Thanks for clarifying. Clear as daylight.
Bottom line, for me: Nice version of IRscope. I can't find any flaws.
It's amazing how we all survived without this sort of tools, and I have barely scratched the surface here.
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Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride

[vickyg2003]

Graham, I've been playing with IRScope and loving it. While I don't use all of the features you have added, the ones I do use have made all the difference in the world. The ability to delete, reorder, add notes, and import and export are HUGE improvements.

I've found one little itty bitty item. The SAVE AS folder doesn't default to the SAVE folder.
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[mathdon]

[garyb.ncc]

I have finally gotten some time to start playing with Beta 2 and I would like to say that all the new features are really nice.

I was playing with it today and found a bit of a quirk that can make it a little difficult to import Pronto hex. I copied some Pronto hex directly from a CCF file and pasted it into the IRScope import dialog. The hex coming from ProntoEdit had all lower case letters in the hex. IRScope only accepts uppercase hex. If you would change the IRScope code to allow upper and lower case, or convert toupper it would sure make it easier.
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Gary