RMIR v3.2 Major new release!

[mathdon]

Thanks for the good news .

[HamburgerHelper1]

Graham
When trying File>New>Remote Image these remotes will not show up when selected URC-4910 URC-4911 URC-4912 URC-4913 Both of the URC-1910
and URC-4914 Insignia Sony NS-RMTSNY17
Is it my RMIR install or can you replicate this behavior ?

[HamburgerHelper1]

RMIR also can only create the xsight Lite 8610 the rest of the xsight a window opens with "'RMIR cannot create a new remote image for this remote"

[mathdon]

Graham
When trying File>New>Remote Image these remotes will not show up when selected URC-4910 URC-4911 URC-4912 URC-4913 Both of the URC-1910
and URC-4914 Insignia Sony NS-RMTSNY17
Is it my RMIR install or can you replicate this behavior ?

This is a bug. I will look into it.

RMIR also can only create the xsight Lite 8610 the rest of the xsight a window opens with "'RMIR cannot create a new remote image for this remote"

This is correct. The XSight Lite/Plus remotes are remotes with segments, the XSight Touch/Color remotes have an entirely different internal structure for which it is not possible to create a new remote image.

[The Robman]

Graham, for the small list of remotes for which RMIR cannot generate a new image, would it be a good idea to gather together a set of raw RMIR files from these remotes and include them with RMIR? Even better, if someone tries to create a new image, could RMIR just open one of those files?

[mathdon]

Graham, for the small list of remotes for which RMIR cannot generate a new image, would it be a good idea to gather together a set of raw RMIR files from these remotes and include them with RMIR? Even better, if someone tries to create a new image, could RMIR just open one of those files?

The ordinary user of RMIR has no reason ever to use File > New > Remote Image. It is not a substitute for a Factory Reset. The images it creates are not suitable for uploading into a remote as in almost all cases they are missing essential data. I have often thought of removing this menu item completely but haven't done so as it has always been there and I thought removing it might cause more questions than leaving it. Also, it is a facility that I personally find useful for testing while being aware of its limitations.

As remotes have gained more facilities over time, the created remote image has got further and further away from being functional. While this option is there, however, it should not crash. This is why I will fix the bug that Randy has found, but there is no way I would attempt to enhance it to handle new images for XSight Touch/Color remotes.

[mathdon]

Graham
When trying File>New>Remote Image these remotes will not show up when selected URC-4910 URC-4911 URC-4912 URC-4913 Both of the URC-1910
and URC-4914 Insignia Sony NS-RMTSNY17
Is it my RMIR install or can you replicate this behavior ?

I have fixed this for the next build.

[HamburgerHelper1]

Graham
Device tab sorting quirk
On previous versions i could click on the heading "setup code" "protocol" etc and my devices would be sorted accordingly.
On v3.1.14 this works fine but I think somewhere around v3.2.0 to the current version it starts to not work correctly.
With Some versions some of the headings work but sorting by "setup Code" does not
I do not know what to make of it as to why. can you duplicate this behavior or am I just Crazy

[mathdon]

Not crazy . Thanks for spotting this, it was an unintended consequence of a minor change I made in v3.2.0. Fixed now for next build, subject to further testing.

[mathdon]

Randy, I have now posted development build RMIR v3.2.9 in the usual place. I have delayed posting this till now in case anything further cropped up to add to it, but nothing has. This should fix the issues you identified with v3.2.8. I would be grateful if you could check this and report back.

[HamburgerHelper1]

Graham so far after testing RMIR v3.2.9 with 3 different remotes I have not run into any problems.
However when trying File > New > Remote Image. and selecting the new replacement remotes that you recently added such as the URC-4910 and the others
I notice something odd
When i try and add a Real-time Macro the bound key list of app 1 2 3 repeats itself several times.
Is this due to it actually needing a download from the remote?

[CyberSimian]

I have now posted development build RMIR v3.2.9 in the usual place.

I am not sure where that is. I went to the link that you included in the first post in this thread and downloaded that, but it appears to be 3.2.7. Anyway... I originally wrote the following for RMIR 3.1.5, but 3.2.7 shows the same error.

Using older RMDU files

I tried to load into RMIR 3.2.7 an RMDU file that was last changed in 2018. The file would not open. On looking at the contents of that file, and comparing it with an RMDU file that I created recently for a Sony TV, I noticed that there is an unusual line at the end of the button list, namely the "-1" line:

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Button.da=Function.45|null|null
Button.db=Function.46|null|null
Button.dc=Function.-1|null|null

I checked a number of other RMDU files from that time (2018). Some had the "-1" line, but others did not. For example, built-in code set 1571 had the "-1" line, but built-in code set 0571 did not (both code sets for a Pioneer DV-400V DVD player).

When you have a list with a variable number of items, a valid technique is to use an item entry that has a special value that cannot occur naturally in the list, to act as a terminator for the list. Values such as 0 or -1 are often used for this purpose. I would surmise that the "-1" in the button list is intended to terminate the list, but is no longer needed in RMIR 3.2.7. So I deleted the "-1" line manually, and then the file loaded successfully into RMIR 3.2.7.

Considerations of upward compatibility would lead me to expect that RMIR 3.2.7 would be able to open these older RMDU files and perform any fix-ups necessary as the file was read into memory. Is this supposed to happen, or is there a limit on the age of RMDU files that can be read successfully?

Thank you.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

[The Robman]

I have now posted development build RMIR v3.2.9 in the usual place.

I am not sure where that is. I went to the link that you included in the first post in this thread and downloaded that, but it appears to be 3.2.7.

It's here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/contro ... velopment/

For the future, in case you forget that link, here's how you could find it:
1. Go to the File Section, then go to Tools and Main.
2. There, click on "RM/RMIR (latest copy)" and click Download. This will take you to the main RM page at Sourceforge
3. There, click on the Files tab, then click on RMIRDevelopment
4. Click on "RMIR.v3.2.9-bin.zip" to download it

[CyberSimian]

It's here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/contro ... velopment/

Thank you! I have bookmarked that address.

I have also copied your instructions into a separate text file, as there is a good chance that I will not be able to find the bookmark when I need it in the future.

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

[mathdon]

However when trying File > New > Remote Image. and selecting the new replacement remotes that you recently added such as the URC-4910 and the others I notice something odd. When i try and add a Real-time Macro the bound key list of app 1 2 3 repeats itself several times.
Is this due to it actually needing a download from the remote?

No, I'm afraid it is one more to add to the long list of bugs you have found . Fixed now for the next build.

I tried to load into RMIR 3.2.7 an RMDU file that was last changed in 2018. The file would not open. On looking at the contents of that file, and comparing it with an RMDU file that I created recently for a Sony TV, I noticed that there is an unusual line at the end of the button list, namely the "-1" line:

Please post an RMDU file that has this problem for me to test with.