NRC17 Protocol

[johnsfine]

I hope some other expert has time to research the NRC17 question. I won't have time to for a while. We don't see it often in JP1 so I guess it doesn't yet have an entry in RM's protocols.ini file.

Meanwhile, I don't understand the other question you seem to be asking about the Grundig, and I can't tell if you're asking anything about those other devices.

Usually its best to have a seperate thread for questions about seperate devices, and provide just information relevent to that device and that problem.

[Terminar]

Hi The Robman,

thanks for the fast reply!
I took some time to create the whole ir learned configs, maybe something is missing (but i did my best)

I wasn't sure if i am allowed to post everything to the forum, and i wasn't sure if i need to post the *.ir or the *.txt or both, so i put the files to my webserver...
The files can be accessed at:

http://jp1.cyberphoria.info/jp1/

i also put a readme.txt to the files with a small description...
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Grundig TP720 Remote:
The directory grundig_tv_tp720 contains the files where i have learned the
keys from the remote in three steps because of the low memory of the 9960.
Some keys are mapped curious because i can't use the vol- and some other keys
to learn stuff... Whatever

I've written down the original keys from the original remote in the info field.

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Nokia DBox2:
The directory nokia_dbox2 is learned in two steps... the keys are also
written in the info fields of the keys...

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Harman Kardon AVR35 RDS Remote:

Now, the big problem i discovered today... When i wanted to relearn the keys from
the original remote, it turns out that the hk remote is broken, most of the keys
aren't working anymore.

I could only learn 4 keys, they can be found in the hk35rds.ir/.txt...

I've learned most of the keys with my old european urc-8060, so the missing
keys may be extracted from the dump hkavr35rds_learned_with_urc8060.*

Mayybe, in the urc8060 config, there are additional informations about the devices
which i use. I think the codes for the harman kardon avr35rds
are available in the european urc-8060, with additional teaching of some keys...

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Erm, maybe someone can help me to sort the puzzle???

Thanks
Terminar

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@johnsfine:

Oh, sorry, i didn't know that, if i need to, i will create three different posts, but i wasn't sure because i don't want to confuse people with several posts at once...

[The Robman]

I have just created a KM file that replicates TV/0492, that uses the $00BD protocol, which can be found here: TV-0492.txt

I then learned the signals from a URC-6131 into a URC-8811, and the results can be found here: TV-0492-learned.IR

[johnsfine]

That confirms what I probably guessed earlier (and forgot) about which bits go where. So here are instructions for whoever adds the KM and RM support for NRC17:

Fixed data bits 6 through 0 are Device bits 0 through 6 (which is LSB shifted over by 1 position).

Fixed data bit 7 is OBC bit 7. Since the OBC can't actually control a fixed data bit in KM or RM, the only way to do that is the way the similar feature is done for RC5.
In RM, that would be a check box for "OBC>127" on the setup sheet, controlling that fixed data bit and preferably mixing into the hex-cmd -> OBC translation process to force the OBC into the right range.

Hex Cmd bits 6 through 0 are OBC bits 0 through 6 (which again is LSB shifted over by 1 position).

Hex Cmd bit 7 must be set (or the result won't be NRC17 protocol).

[hipster]

Hi,

I have Nokia Mediamaster 210T which uses NRC17. I haven't been able to build a KM file for it. Can I use TV-0492.txt as a base?

My remote is URC-9960

This is what ir.exe learned e.g. button #1:

Protocol: NRC17
Device: 124
Sub device:-
OBC:1
Hex cmd:-
EFC-
Misc:(2)

Sent Once when key is pressed:

+498 -2496 +498 -1002 +996 -506 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -20956 +498 -2496 +498 -502 +498 -1002 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +996 -506 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -1002 +498 -80036

Sent repeatedly while key is being held:

+498 -2496 +498 -502 +498 -1002 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +996 -506 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -502 +498 -1002 +498 -80036

Frequency: 38095