JP1 Remotes

JLPicard · Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 42

Title says it. Do I have to go to using an extender if I want to control more than the 5 devices that Atlas supports? I am just getting the hang of using Upgrades. ' Confused

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I have Amp, BluRay, Cable, TV, Ipod Dock, X10 Lighting w/IR543.

vickyg2003 · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject:

An extender uses a special protocol called a multiplexer that changes setup codes on the fly. Some remotes allow a multiplexer to be used without an extender, but as far as I know, the JP1.3 remotes don't have any standalone multiplexers because of the E2 area is handled differently than most remotes.

However even though a standalone multiplexer isn't available doesn't mean that the unit will only handle 5 devices. You can still use one device mode to handle more than one device by utilizing keymoves.

The Atlas has lots of room for keymoves and lots of keys. So you should be able to do this easily.

It seems to me that an ipod doesn't require a bunch of keys, maybe you can add that to the AMP in AUD mode.

When you press each device button(Aux,DVD,AUD,TV,CBL), it will change setup codes, BUT keymoves don't access that device-mode-setup code. Keymoves remember their own setup code. So they send out whatever kind of signal the setup code sends.

KEYMOVES are the key.

unclemiltie · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject:

Like Vicky said, the iPod remote really doens't need that many buttons.

you could map them via keymoves to the blue ray or audio setup (i.e. you could use the number buttons when the blue ray device is set to do 2=up, 5=select,8=down, 4=left and 6=right as a thought)

The device multiplex is a good feature, but overkill for what you need.

(you will still need the ipod upgrade to map those keys to the keymoves, but won't assign the ipod to a device button)

of course, the extender is a fine piece of work by a really talented person so I'm sure that you'll be very happy with it!
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JLPicard · Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 42

Cool, the Ipod docking station will require very few keys indeed, probably half a dozen. I won't even need to control the volume of the IPOD itself, just the volume of my Onkyo. I just yesterday figured out how to install upgrades with RM-IR, and have figured out some simple Macros without much difficulty, however I can't seem to find anything written for a true newbie on how to program a keymove.

Can I get a nudge in the right direction? I have found out WHAT a keymove it just not HOW to program one correctly.

Thanks for the help!

unclemiltie · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:27 pm Post subject:

in RM or RMIR you can program a key move

What the key move is the ability to "move" a key value from one device to another.

So, for example, you add the Apple ipod device to your list of devices as Audio 2000

on your onkyo, you would then enter a key move that binds to the "4" key device AUD/2000 and button "volume up"

So when you push the 4 button when on your receiver, the remote will substitute the commadn that comes with the ipod AUD/2000 volume up.

(actually there are two types of key moves on some of the newer remotes, including the JP1.3 that can either bind a "key" value or bind a "hex" value in the key move. either will do the trick for you)
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vickyg2003 · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:42 am Post subject:

The Robman · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:30 pm Post subject:

If you re-think your remote setup so things are more activity based, rather than device based, you might find things easier to set up. For example, do you still use your TV as a stand alone device, or do you really just use it as a way to watch other devices, such as your Bluray and cable? If so, apart from needing to turn it on (which can be done via a power-on macro) what do you need to control? Likewise for the amp.
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JLPicard · Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 42

The Robman · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject:

If your amp does all the switching, I'm guessing that you have amp buttons that select the right input for the device that's being used. If so, may I suggest a new strategy for you.

Is there a button on your remote that doesn't serve much purpose at the moment? If so, you could set it aside to be your "all purpose" input select button. Then keymove the correct input select to each of the device modes. For example, keymove the button that selects the Bluray input to this button in DVD mode. Keymove the button that selects the cable input to this button in CBL mode, etc.

Then, when the remote is in DVD mode, you just press this button to select the DVD player, you don't need to switch to AMP mode to do it. You could also include this button in your start up macros.
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JLPicard · Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 42

Rob, The way I am doing it now is that I assign a macro to a device button. If I am about to use my Blu Ray, I have the macro on the DVD button, that goes to the AMP, selects the DVD input, then goes back to the DVD. I don't actually use any of the input buttons for the AMP to do that. Is that a bad way of doing it?