CaptiveWorks CW4000 on URC10820 please

paula0015 · Post by **paula0015** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:04 am

1. Device: Captiveworks CW4000 (Same as CW3000)
2. Type of device: Home Media/Satelite PVR
3. Year: 2010
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: 10820 (not N)
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? Yes
7. Checked the file section? Oh yeah
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes. Nothing.
9. Partially working setup code? No
10. Learning remote question? Needs a special protocol. Tried <https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5760>. No go. Not for my remote.
11. Have you tried the JP1 Lookup Tool? Yes.

I'll be forever grateful.

Post by **vickyg2003** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:31 am

paula0015, Can you find some learns or post some learns of this protocol, my sc38+ are not accessible right now, so I can't see how this signal is supposed to look.

I need some learns so that I can test a protocol. A few will do, since I don't need to do the actual decoding, Rob has already done that. I just need to be able to match one or two signals so that I know I've done things right.

Post a link to the ir file here. I'm in the middle of a project here, so it may take a while. Please mark the notify me when a reply is posted box, so that you'll know when there is something to see.

paula0015 · Post by **paula0015** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:09 am

vickyg2003 wrote:paula0015, Can you find some learns or post some learns of this protocol, my sc38+ are not accessible right now, so I can't see how this signal is supposed to look.

Thank you. I have posted a file, CW4000 Learned.ir in the Diagnosis Area
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=9375

Post by **vickyg2003** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:57 am

Give this one a try, it looks pretty close.

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=9377

paula0015 · Post by **paula0015** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:11 am

Thanks, but not working at all. No response from the CW4000 -- correct or incorrect.

Post by **vickyg2003** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:25 pm

Oops, I asked for your signal and then I didn't have enough connectivity to download the file. But I have it now and I see that the CaptiveWorks 4000 has a slightly different signal than the 3000. I have the play from the 3000 upgrade from both a JP1.3 and JP1.2 remote, and the play from the 4000 that you captured.

Now I have to figure out what numbers to use in the upgrade to get the timings to look the same. Eeewww. Oh well, I'm close and we should have a working upgrade this weekend.

Post by **vickyg2003** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:10 pm

Hmm, I see what Rob did with the original captive works, and I'm going to need a more complete list of the 4000 to figure out how this needs to be done with the new numbers.

paula0015 · Post by **paula0015** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:35 pm

Please explain "a more complete list of the 4000". A list of functions or more learned codes?

Post by **vickyg2003** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:12 pm

paula0015 wrote:Please explain "a more complete list of the 4000". A list of functions or more learned codes?

I/we need the complete set of learns, so that we can figure out how to code this.

The CaptiveWork 3000 used a multiple of 840. The on and off times were multiples of 840, this one looks like we'll need multples of 410, but the signal goes the same amount of time, so we'll have to use a different scheme.

The protocol has a toggle, it has two parts. Its quite complicated.

I'm hoping Rob will give me some guidance here. I can't see the patterns, but once he explains them to me I can code and test them.

Post by **The Robman** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Using the following key:
1 = +410 -0
0 = -0 +410

here's the binary:

# Device Button Key Notes Freq Raw Timing Data
1 PVR Play 38461 Once:
111000100010001000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-130790
111000100010001000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-130790

2 PVR RWD 38277 Once:
111000100010001000111111111110000011100010001000001000001-130790
111000100010001000111111111110000011100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110000011100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110000011100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110000011100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111111111110000011100010001000001000001-130790

3 PVR Pause 38277 Once:
111000100010001000111000111110001111100010001000001000001-130790
111000100010001000111000111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111000111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111000111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010001000111000111110001111100010001000001000001-84460

4 PVR FWD 38461 Once:
111000100010000000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-130790
111000100010000000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-84460
111000100010000000111111111110001111100010001000001000001-84460

5 PVR Power 38277 Once:
111000100011111000111000111110001111100010001000001000001-130790
111000100011111000111000111110001111100010001000001000001-23370

paula0015 · Post by **paula0015** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:16 am

I see Rob's post following the request for more learns. (Not that I understand a single thing there). Is that a solution or would you still like more learned keys.

Thanks for all of this.

Post by **vickyg2003** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:55 am

paula0015 wrote:I see Rob's post following the request for more learns. (Not that I understand a single thing there). Is that a solution or would you still like more learned keys.

Thanks for all of this.

We still need the complete list of learns. We need the complete pattern before we can create a protocol.

Rob's post was an answer to my plea for help.

Rob has a talent for spotting and simplifying patterns. I actually think he LIKES this part of the decode process. For me that is nearly impossible and totally frustrating. However, when it comes to coding and debugging the HCSO8 protocol executor, I find it challenging and at the same time relaxing and enjoyable.

We're always looking for people that have the talent for pattern recognition, and when I have a question like this, Rob will explain this in the forum instead of doing it one-on-one so we might capture someone else's interest.

Post by **The Robman** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:13 pm

paula0015 wrote:I see Rob's post following the request for more learns. (Not that I understand a single thing there). Is that a solution or would you still like more learned keys.

Thanks for all of this.

Yes, more learns please.

Post by **The Robman** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:09 pm

Is a new IR file coming?

paula0015 · Post by **paula0015** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:53 pm

Yes. My turn to be busy. I'll try to learn them Sunday morning.
And, please, no big rush on your end. My CW4000 is being RMA'd for bad behavior. I probably won't see it again for three weeks.

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