6131 built in setup for Sylvania TV issues strange signal?

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ElizabethD
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6131 built in setup for Sylvania TV issues strange signal?

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My question is about frames 28-38 and 39-55 in this IRscope Summary file
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=8578
6131 offers a setup code 0381 for Sylvania TV (i forgot to get the model, it's something old).

The TV responds to 0171, but not all buttons work the TV. Specifically, we want the input functions. This TV has front inputs for things like cameras, but we can't get the TV to go there.
0171 is Emerson protocol which both KM and RM refuse to acknowledge. And there's only one possible file in Rob's crossref that might contain what I'm looking for.

So I tried several other setup codes which 6131 has, and looked at what comes out in IRscope. Will soon try to work that TV using 0030 and 0054.

Now, here's a puzzler; using IRscope when I tried the same buttons as on the other setup codes, I get Anync5 situation. Is 6131 goofed up or is it some secret signal we don't yet decode?

Edit: I forgot to mention - I looked through Advanced code lists on this site for input switch, those codes speak EFC and without KM and RM I really don't know how to go about it :(
Liz
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Post by 3FG »

Liz,
Perhaps I misunderstand the issue here, but RM does handle Emerson protocols. Trouble is, it (and I suppose KM also) expects the Emerson protocol to have one of these three names: Emerson (1-device), Emerson Combo (3-device), and Emerson Combo (4-device). You can see these names in Protocols.ini.

Nearly all Emerson upgrades which invoke the Emerson protocol describe it as "Emerson". Generally RM stops doing anything useful when it doesn't recognize the protocol name, and needs to be terminated in Task Manager.

For my usage, I have simply edited the rmdu file so that the line Protocol.name=Emerson is changed to Protocol.name=Emerson Combo (3-device). Perhaps it is better to call it Protocol.name=Emerson (1-device), but I haven't done that.

Look in the TV Combo section, and get Emerson_EWC_1031_TV-VCR.rmdu. Change the protocol name, and then RM will load the file. It is device 40 instead of 41, but the EFCs match what the Lookup Tool says are the EFCs for 0171.

If you sort the file by OBCs, it looks like there is a narrow range of EFCs to try.
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Post by ElizabethD »

Dave, Thanks a lot. Your editing of the protocol name in the .rmdu file does work in RM. I suppose the same can be done for KM files. No reason not to.

This TV model is SST-4192, device 41.
TV/Vid on my 6131 using setup 0171, according to IRScope, puts out obc 13, hex $4c or 4d or 4e and it works - changes TV input to "GAME".
None of the other possible input selection codes work; I checked EFCs: 080, 083,236,241,182. I got these from the Advanced codes list and Vicky's lookups, and made keymoves. Surprised that 241 didn't work as a keymove because I think it is the Game mode code. I may have done it wrong someplace; not used to unextended 6131.

Oh, I could not use the file you referenced (Emerson_EWC_1031_TV-VCR.rmdu). The file is odd - no carriage returns, and the protocol and fixed data lines are buried at the end. There was another file, this for Sylvania SST-4274 with several codes that match, some totally different, and several clearly wrong.
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Post by 3FG »

Open it with Wordpad instead of Notepad. After editing and saving, the End of Line characters will be set back to Windows standard.
The order of entries in the file doesn't matter to RM; probably it uses the Java Properties class which will search for each entry.

I do think that this file will suggest some reasonable OBCs.
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