Sky HD for 7562 B01

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Sky HD for 7562 B01

Post by davidbooker »

Hi

I'm looking for the Sky HD code, as used in the Sky remote for the latest model Amstrad DRX890 HD Sky box. It is important that this code does not operate a regular Sky+ box. The usual code 1175 operates both Sky+ and HD, as does code 1847. Code 1662 was suggested by somebody a while ago, but it simply does not work anything.

I have "learned" most of the main functions from the Sky remote to my 7562 B01, which could form the basis of a RemoteMaster upgrade (if I knew how to do it!), but I would rather have the original code, if it exists.

I have a JP1 cable, IR.exe and RemoteMaster, and both the relevant remotes at hand. Hoping somebody can help.

Many thanks, David
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Post by The Robman »

Here it is in template form...

1. Device: Amstrad DRX890 HD Sky box
2. Type of device: SAT stb
3. Year: unknown
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: URC-7562 B01
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? yes
6. Still have original remote? yes
7. Checked the file section? unknown
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? unknown
9. Partially working setup code? no
10. Learning remote question? not answered satisfactorily
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Post by 3FG »

So you've got two boxes, and two original remotes. You want to program a 7562 to control the DRX890, but without having the older box respond.

A quick inspection using the Lookup Tool (linked at the top of this page) shows that Cable 1175 is RC6-M-20n (ver 2) protocol, device 236.0. Cable 1847 uses device 224.0. The code that doesn't work at all, 1662 is device 236.5. Also, checking the EFCs shows that for all listed setup codes e.g. Channel+/- are the same.

So your next step is to download (using IR.exe) from your remote, go to the Learned tab, and see what protocol and device numbers the DRX890 remote is using. Probably you'll find that there is no setup code that matches.

If so, you can transfer the protocol, device number, and individual OBC numbers into RM, and make an upgrade. Or, you can save the downloaded data from the remote into a *.IR file, and put it into the Diagnosis Area of the File Section. Then one of us can help you.
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Post by The Robman »

Does the regular HD remote work the Sky+ box? If not, the learned signals will yield the answer. If it does, you will need to find if there is a setting that you can use to make the two boxes respond to different codesets.
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Post by davidbooker »

Many thanks for all your replies.

No, the Sky HD remote does not work the Sky+ box, but the Sky+ remote works both the Sky+ and Sky HD boxes.

The problem is that we have a Sky HD box in the lounge, and a Sky+ box in the bedroom. The HD box is controlled from the bedroom by a SkyEye. Unfortunately, when the Sky+ remote is used, the lounge box responds! I have purchased an ingenious "SkyEye Transalator" (from a firm called Letsautomate) which is set to respond only to HD code, and thus the problem is solved. The fly in the ointment is that, other than learning all the functions, I cannot get that HD code into my 7562.......

Unfortunately I don't know anyone else who owns a Sky HD box, but they have been around for several years, and I find it hard to believe that 1) the remote control code has been changed and 2) nobody else has tried to isolate it for similar purposes to mine.

OFA continue to insist that the Sky HD code is 1662, but I simply cannot make it work on any of my three 7562's, no matter how I configure them.

I've amended and completed the template as far as I can. Sorry I should have done this in the first place. I'm afraid I don't really yet understand the finer points of these codesets, so be gentle with me!

1. Device: Amstrad DRX890 HD Sky box
2. Type of device: SAT stb
3. Year: 2010
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: URC-7562 B01 / R00 (virtually identical)
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? yes
6. Still have original remote? yes
7. Checked the file section? yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? yes
9. Partially working setup code? no
10. Learning remote question? Yes, learned most functions from the original, saved on IR file. Enough functions to use the HD box satisfactorily, but still missing about seven.
Last edited by davidbooker on Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by The Robman »

Your questions are all answered in the "template" sticky thread:
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49

When you say "yes" that you checked the file section, does that mean that you tried the upgrade for the Amstrad DRX-780i Sky Satellite Box to see if it works for you?

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6393
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Post by davidbooker »

Cheers Rob!

I'll give that link a good read tomorrow, as it's midnight here.

I had already downloaded and tried the Amstrad 780 file you suggested, and it contained code 1175, which is the standard Sky+ codest that I've been using on my 7562's for years.

Many thanks for your patience.

Regards, David
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Post by The Robman »

What makes you say that that upgrade is the same as the 1175 code? That upgrade uses the XMP protocol whereas the SAT/1175 code uses the RC6-M-20n protocol.

If you don't know how to make an upgrade from your learned signals, post your IR file(s) and we'll help you.
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Post by davidbooker »

Hello Rob

Sorry about the delay in replying, I was called away unexpectedly.

The Amstrad 780 link you gave me was not the file I thought it was, so I tried it again. Still no luck, I'm afraid.

I have zipped up two IR files, with all the learnt codes from the original Sky HD remote. If you wouldn't mind just having a quick look, perhaps you could suggest whether it is related to any known codeset. By the way, although the number 1847 is entered in the CD function key box, the learnt code has nothing to do with the 1847 codeset.

The files are here: https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=8113

Many thanks.
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Post by vickyg2003 »

The number codes match up with Cable/1662, which is not a code built into your remote, as far as I know.

Which upgrade did you try to get the SAT/1662 working? Something may have gone haywire when you uploaded it to the remote.
Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Post by davidbooker »

Hi Vicky

OFA emailed me code 1662 in a wave file, and I entered this using the import .wav facility in IR.exe. It registered okay in the "devices" section, and all the functions were there, but it simply would not work! If you're confident this is the right code, I'll have another go at it.

Many thanks, David :)
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Post by davidbooker »

Well, I've started with a clean IR.exe file for my remote to avoid interactions, and used the import .wav feature to enter the file OFA sent me for device number 1662. I then manually entered "1662" on the SAT key.

Uploaded to remote - 1662 is present in "Devices", complete with all relevant keys, but still absolutely nothing works......

Am I doing something wrong. If not, has anybody got an IR file for this codeset, as the wave file may be corrupt.
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Post by vickyg2003 »

Oops, I must have been hallucinating, the device number of your learns are different than the 1662. But you have all the information you need to setup a device upgrade.

RC6 6,20
Device 5, Subdevice 12
Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Post by davidbooker »

vickyg2003 wrote:Oops, I must have been hallucinating, the device number of your learns are different than the 1662. But you have all the information you need to setup a device upgrade.

RC6 6,20
Device 5, Subdevice 12
Thanks Vicky, I thought I was going round the bend! Problem is, I don't know how to do a device upgrade........
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Post by vickyg2003 »

David Its not as hard as you'd think.

You open up RemoteMaster,
Type in the description
Pick your Remote from the list in the dropdown
Select the protocol you need (RC6,M,20, N)

Fill in the M, try 0, but this might not be the correct value
Fill in the device number 5
Fill in the subdevice number 12
Move over to the Functions TAB
Make a list of the functions from the OEM remote, this is where I always got confused.
Fill in the OBC column from the learns in your IR file
Then switch to the Buttons TAB and assign the functions to the buttons on your UEI remote.
Move to the OUTPUT tab and copy the device and paste it into IR.

Good Luck.
Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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