JP1 Remotes

digitize · Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 26

I have a weird problem. I finally got my USB interface working. I upload/download to an 8810W and also to a 15-1994. However I cannot download from the ReplayTV remote to IR401 ( I have not tried the reverse direction yet). I get this error everytime,

"The remote is not acknowledging data requests. (ErrNo=8, Addr=1024, Size=-1, Count=8 )"

I have changed to a set of fresh batteries on the remote and get the same error. If I use the parallel interface it works fine. I am using an extender on this remote.

What do you think is going on?

Thanks

ddsmith60 · Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 34

I don't have an answer for you. What I do have is confirmation that this message is received when I try to use the USB cable with a Showstopper/Replay remote. Maybe one of the experts can explain this. Fortunately for me I don't use the Replay remote because the 1994 is far superior. It is puzzling why it does this.

Mark Pierson · Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:34 pm Post subject:

Just a hunch, but have either of you tried without batteries?

I suspect it has something to do with JP1 pins 1 & 2 that provide power to the EEPROM. Neither of my 2103's work with the USB, either. I can't seem to find the notes I compiled when testing this with Tommy Tyler and Mark Pauker (I'll keep looking), but I seem recall it had something to do with power (or lack of) to the EEPROM.
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digitize · Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 26

Mark,

Are you saying to remove the batteries from the ReplayTV remote and then do a download to overcome this problem?

I would check right now but I am out of town for a few days.

Thanks

Mark Pierson · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:51 am Post subject:

Yes... ttry downloading without batteries in the remote. It probably won't work, but it's worth a try.
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The Robman · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:19 am Post subject:

Also, could you mention whether this is a 2000/3000 series ReplayTV remote, or a 5000 series remote.
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ddsmith60 · Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 34

Well, In an effort to help resolve this issue I tried removing the batteries and still get the same message. My remote is an original Showstopper remote. I plugged the 1994 into the cable after I got the message for the Showstopper remote and it read the information correctly.

Mark Pierson · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject:

I just looked through some of my old old notes (volumes!!! Shocked

) from Tommy Tyler and Mark Pauker when we were troubleshooting the final designs of the Serial and USB interfaces.

My 2103's have the same problem with both the USB and Serial interfaces ("The remote is not acknowledging data requests."). The best Tommy, Mark, and myself could come up with was it's somehow an EEPROM power issue.

In the JP1 interface, pins 1 and 2 normally get connected together so that the MPU power (connected to pin1) can supply the EEPROM (connected to pin 2). Those two pins are tied together in the USB design Tommy released, but aren't connected to anything in the actual circuit.

My best guess is that there's something internally different on these two remotes (RTV and ShowStopper) when compared to other JP1 remotes. Since I've never actually seen either of them, I can't say what, if any, the differences might be. I know 6012w requires a jumper to be added on the PCB for JP1 to work at all; perhaps something similar is needed on these? Confused

Do either of you have a regular JP1 interface (Simple, etc) that works with these remotes?

Sorry I can't be of more help... maybe Tommy and/or Mark will see this thread and offer their thoughts...
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ddsmith60 · Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 34

Mark,
I do have the regular interface design and have used it to download the Showstopper remote to IR with no problems. This is why I'm confused. It isn't a problem that the Showstopper remote can not communicate, it's a difference between the USB and the Parallel interface designs that seems to be causing the problems.

Mark Pierson · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:20 pm Post subject:

gjarboni · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject:

digitize · Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 26

Rob and Mark,

My Replay remote is for a 5080 unit. I tried the no batteries in the compartment to see if it would work. No luck. As I mention earlier the parallel interface works everytime. This is a toughy.

ddsmith60 · Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 34

Tommy,
What do you think about the idea of jumpering pins 1 and 2 to the +5 volt supply on the USB cable. Do you think it will have adverse effect on the interface function?

ddsmith60 · Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 34

I tried the jumper idea from +5v USB to pin 1 and 2 of JP1 connector and it still comes up with the same error. Sad

I guess some other thing is going on.

Mark Pierson · Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject:

You might need to jumper the USB Gnd to JP1 pin 3 as well. Then again, I'm not sure, but the USB power might be too much for the JP1 side of the interface.
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