JP1 Remotes

[gfb107]

[mdavej]

The 13x series has even fewer limitations than other remotes since nearly all keys (including transport keys, etc.) are present in every device mode, thus, fewer keymoves required in upgrades.

Your stop button problem is probably something simple, like forgetting to copy/paste the device into IR again after you changed it in RM, or not having the identical device code in RM assigned to the TV on the general tab in IR. There's no reason for it not to work if programmed properly.

P works as you described. Again, make sure you copy/paste from RM to the device in IR after making changes. You should see new key moves for your shifted functions in IR after pasting in the upgrade.

The 134 extender has a few more limitations regarding shifted functions. But the RDF includes those rules and won't let you assign anything to shifted keys that won't work. I assume you aren't using the extender anyway.

[st5000]

BTW, in true hacker fashion, I "dropped" my remote and proceeded to pull it apart (why wast a good drop?). Even though the silicon button skin has the missing buttons under the plastic shell, it doesn't appear there are the proper targets on the printed circuit board. It's and interesting board. It looks single layered but if you look closely you can see where it appears they printed a second layer of jumpers over the solder resist. The same technique appears to be used to make the targets for the buttons. It difficult to see so it probably will not photograph well. Missing are the bottom 4 button targets and a couple more device button targets. I'm comparing this to a 15-135.

[st5000]

Ever since I move my TV code from the AUX to the TV device button I have totally lost control of my TV. Although not a perfect match, I went back to a fresh copy of the rmdu file an mapped all the buttons once again and copied both the device and protocol windows from RM to IR. Could there be a problem w/the TV button on the 15-134?

I'm trying to use the Sony kp-61HS10.rmdu file. I was having success when I associated this with the AUX button. Guess I'll have to back track and try it there again.

[mdavej]

Since you moved it to the AUX button, make sure you also pick the TV device Type on the general tab of IR. If the types in RM and IR don't match, it will use the wrong code. For example, if you type 1234 in the code field in IR, and use type TV, the actual code the remote uses is 11234 (note the 1 prefix). Putting the same code in the AUX device and leaving it type Audio actually uses 31234 (note the 3 prefix), not the code you intended. Changing the type to TV uses 11234 as it should. So any device button can handle any type, so long as the types in RM and IR are consistent. To see how they are related, look at the Device Types and Device Type Aliases sections in the RDF.

That's interesting about the board. I've wondered if I could make a hybrid, using the case and extra buttons of a 135 on a 133 board. Since the targets aren't there, it wouldn't work.

[st5000]

Hi all...

I'm going to chalk up my TV problems to pilot error (the PIP OFF key is associated w/device 164, not 1) and not finding the correct rmdu file for my TV (it was over at yahoo still, there's now a copy here at hifi-remote.com as well).

The shift key feature (pressing then releasing the program key then pressing another "regular" key (i.e. "1") to access the shift function assigned to that key (i.e. "1")) is still eluding me. I think I've see it work, but more then not I can't get shift keys to do anything.

I'm going to now try programming the 15-135. I have seen posts where people prefer the 15-134 because of the indicator lights under the device keys. However, I have several more then 5 devices I would like to control. Even if they are not all in the same room, having only one remote control image to deal with would make this (already confusing) project easier to handle.

Thanks all for your help.

[Mark Pierson]

[mdavej]

The 133 has 8 device buttons, the 135 has 7, and the 134 has 5. However all are 8 device as long as you have a cable. The additional devices are accessible via macros. For example to add a second DVD player to the 134, put it's code on dev6 and make a macro on shift-DVD, for example, with the command dev6. Now P-DVD activates your second DVD (the device button won't light in this case). The extender has a device multiplexer if you need to go beyond 8 devices. The 133 and 134 also have a home theater mode like the 135, but it is hidden. Just put phantomMS in a macro to activate it.

[urc6131]

[mdavej]

The 15-134 is JP1.3. It won't work with the parallel cable. May not work with IR either, not sure, never tried it. If you use RMIR, it will prompt you for the correct RDF.

A question for you if you don't mind. How did you end up just now starting to use a 15 year old remote?

[urc6131]

I bought the 15-134, over a decade ago, as a backup for my go-to remote, which is a URC6131. But lately it is acting up. So I break out my brand new 15-134 and hoping I could programme it.

If my parallel JP1 cable is not compatible, I would be really disappointed. I don't think I am willing to invest on another JP1 cable. The cable page ( http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/index.php/JP1_Cables ) didn't say the parallel cable is not compatible?

[The Robman]

As Dave says, the 15-134 is a JP1.3 remote, whereas your URC-6131 is a JP1 remote, so they use different cables. If you're not willing to invest $10 to get this working, this is probably the end of your JP1 journey.
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[mdavej]

Keep in mind, JP1 is over 20 years old. And your JP1.3 remote is 15 years old. As far as electronic devices technology goes, that's a pretty good run. A JP1.3 cable still works with most current remotes well as 15 year old ones, and like Rob said, is readily available for around $10.

[urc6131]

If it is truly just $10, I am willing to give it a try. But where is this $10 JP1.3 cable?

[mdavej]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273243544742