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Discrete codes for NEC LCD TV/Monitor?????
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johnsfine
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fleetz wrote:
Unfortunately the Loewe L2650 code didn't work.


What Loewe L2650 code (URL)? And what do you mean by "didn't work"?

If the basic commands didn't work, I think you tested wrong. If the L2650 has discrete codes and those didn't work (but basic commands did) then I guess the Loewe has different advanced commands.

fleetz wrote:
The code I posted definitely came from the NEC LCD remote


That's all I wanted to confirm. There was nothing wrong with the way you captured it and no new information from capturing it other ways. I just wanted you to confirm that you hadn't accidentally copied the code from the wrong device in your file (people often do).

Another way to find the discretes is:

1) Use MakeHex (with RC5.irp with Device=0) to create a full set of 128 possible signals.

2) Use IrPanels or Hex2CCF to convert the MakeHex output to a CCF

3) Merge that CCF into your config in ProntoEdit (I don't know how, but people who know ProntoEdit better than I do, say there is a way to merge in a CCF).

4) Test all 128 numbered buttons and see if any of them are the discrete codes you want.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
Hey Fleetz,
Do you have a CCF file that contains the complete codeset for your TV? If not, could you create one? We have tools to decode CCF files (DecodeCCF) so we could use that to get the complete list of button codes that your TV uses. This would give John a better idea if your set is more like a Loewes or a Philips or some other brand.


Hi Robman,

Cheers and thanks.

I don't have a CCF of the code set. All I could generate is a PCF which my Pronto save, ProntoProEdit doesn't support exporting CCF only importing . There doesn't appear to be a PCF to CCF converter.

I could send a set in Pronto format unless there is another format that would be suitable.

Regards,

Fleetz
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't have any tools to decode PCF files, so the best you can do is to post the individual hex strings.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Robman,

Sorry I can't generate the CCF. Here are HEX strings on the remote

POWER
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0CAE

MUTE
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0041 0020 0C91

1
0000 006D 0000 000D 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0C8D

2
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0CAF

3
0000 006D 0000 000D 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0020 0C8E

4
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0CAF

5
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0020 0C91

6
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0CAD

7
0000 006D 0000 000D 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0C90

8
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0CAF

9
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0041 0020 0C90

0
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0041 0020 0C90

*
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0040 0CAE

PSM (Picture Stus Memory)
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0040 0CAE

SSM (Sound Status Memory)
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0020 0021 0040 0CB1

I/II (BiLingual)
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0020 0C94

MENU
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0041 0020 0021 0020 0C8E

TV/AV
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0CAF

PROGRAM UP
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0CB0

PROGRAM DOWN
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0C91

VOLUME DOWN
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0C8D

VOLUME UP
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0CAD

SLEEP
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0CAD

TV/PC
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0041 0020 0C8F

TEXT/MIX
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0CAF

QVIEW
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0040 0041 0020 0021 0020 0C8F

LIST
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0041 0040 0041 0020 0C8E

RED BUTTON
0000 006D 0000 000C 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0041 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0C8E

GREEN BUTTON
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0041 0020 0021 0040 0CB0

YELLOW BUTTON
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0041 0040 0CAE

BLUE BUTTON
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0020 0021 0040 0041 0040 0021 0020 0CAB

UPDATE
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0020 0021 0040 0041 0020 0C8F

TIME
0000 006D 0000 000A 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0040 0041 0040 0CAD

REVEAL
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0CAF

HOLD
0000 006D 0000 000B 0020 0021 0020 0021 0040 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0021 0020 0041 0040 0041 0040 0021 0020 0041 0020 0C8C


That is the total HEX learned codes that are on the remote. If you want them in a different format to what I have present please let me know.

Appreciate your efforts.

Regards,

Fleetz
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Did you read my post from Aug 30? There are things in that I thought you would respond to.

2) Most of your list of signals, as expected, is the generic code set matching all of the many TV's that use RC5 device 0. But I noticed the Sleep command you posted was unusual, so I did a search on that. I found only three models that match that Sleep command:

Magnavox Television TP-2526
Magnavox Television PS-1960
Fidelity Television CTV-3014F

So your discrete codes, if they exist, are much more likely to match those models than to match the many other RC5 device 0 models.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnsfine wrote:
1) Did you read my post from Aug 30? There are things in that I thought you would respond to.

2) Most of your list of signals, as expected, is the generic code set matching all of the many TV's that use RC5 device 0. But I noticed the Sleep command you posted was unusual, so I did a search on that. I found only three models that match that Sleep command:

Magnavox Television TP-2526
Magnavox Television PS-1960
Fidelity Television CTV-3014F

So your discrete codes, if they exist, are much more likely to match those models than to match the many other RC5 device 0 models.


Hi Johnsfine,

Thanks for the info.

I have been trying to generate the 128 possible signals but can't get MakeHex to run/install. Is there a trick to it?

Have also been looking for the codes on the 3 models you pointed to but not listed here or on Remote Central any ideas where they might be located.

Regards,

Fleetz
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fleetz wrote:
can't get MakeHex to run/install. Is there a trick to it?


Read the readme file. MakeHex does not have a typical UI. If you don't read the instructions, you won't know how to use it.
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