JP1 Remotes

greenough1 · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 659

Hi,
I stumbled on something yesterday when setting up a remoted controlled component video switch:
http://www.lenexpo-electronics.com/4-1-ATLONA-COMPONENT-VIDEO-SWITCHER-WITH-DIGITAL-AND-ANALOG-AUDIO-p-16800.html

this switch can be controlled by the included IR remote or by teaching it a command to use. Using my 8811 (extended) I programmed it to switch to the appropriate input (inputs # 1 or 2) using the receiver (onkyo 575x) discrete input selection (1 for V1 or 4 for DVD). Note that V1 is the digital input from my moto HD cable box (CBL device).

the RCVR input selection is mapped to the numerical keypad: 1 is V1 and 4 is DVD. I taught the switcher that input 1 is selected by RCVR + "1" and input 2 is selected by RCVR + "4". I verified this worked.

In my macros that setup the HT for DVD (RCVR input 4: DVD input) or CBL (RCVR input 1: V1 input), I added the sequence X_RCVR; 1 for CBL (V1) and X_RCVR;4 for DVD, on the LKP portion of CBL and DVD, respectively.

The switcher would not respond to these commands. I substituted the following: RCVR/AMP; 1 and RCVR/AMP;4 for CBL and DVD LKP, respectively, and that worked.

Shouldn't X_RCVR work the same as RCVR/AMP within a macro? X_RCVR certainly lets me select inputs and all other functions of the RCVR.

Thanks for your patience with the long question.

Best,
jeff

floyd1977 · Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Montgomery, IL

greenough1 · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 659

Hi Floyd,
With the extender, device selection buttons only setup the keysets. I completely agree they should be the same within a macro or not.

So really what I'm asking is what's the difference, in a macro, between:
RCVR/AMP;1
and
X_RCVR;1

Where 1 selects input 1 on the amp. The switcher says they're different. I've uploaded my IR file here:

http://hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4668

Look at the LKP part of the RCVR and DVD button.
jeff

pH7_jp1 · Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:45 am Post subject:

X_RCVR;1 Will temporarily set the device to receiver and then send the single command for the "1" key. If the device being controlled before the macro was executed was not the receiver, that previous device will still be controlled.

RCVR/AMP;1 Will execute the macro defined on the RCVR/AMP macro and then send the "1" command for the device current handling the number keys. In your case, after execution of this macro, the device being controlled will be the receiver.

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:57 am Post subject:

greenough1 · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 659

Hi pH7_jp1,
You're right that RCVR/AMP is not temporary like X_RCVR is. BUT the fact still remains that X_RCVR;1 is different than RCVR/AMP;1. The former will select input 1 on the RCVR and not on the switcher.

I think I already posted this, but I taught the switcher RCVR/AMP;1. BIG NOTE, pressing the RCVR/AMP button doesn't send an IR signal, it merely configures the RCVR/AMP keyset.

What happens at the end of the macro is irrelevant, regarding temporary assignment of keysets or not, since the relevant command is in the middle of the macro.

thanks for the input. It's not big deal as I found a work-around. I posted mainly out of curiosity.

Best,
jeff

johnsfine · Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject:

greenough1 · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 659

Hi John,
Maybe I used incorrect terminology. What I meant was the device buttons have no built-in meaning with the extender. I've defined macros on them that setup the keysets (here's where my abuse of terminology was, sorry).

I intended the RCVR;1 combination I inserted into the LKP part of CBL, to mimic what I had to do to get the switcher to change to the appropriate input.

Right Robman... My expectation was exactly yours, but that didn't work, hence my question about what's different. In my CBL LKP, X_RCVR;1 (executed in the LKP macro) changes the receiver to input 1, as does RCVR;1 (executed my manually pressing RCVR then 1). So my receiever thinks these are the same.

the switcher was taught RCVR;1, but ignores X_RCVR;1, apparently. Maybe it is a timing issue as John suggests.

Unfortunately I had to return the switcher today since it was degrading the high frequencies of HD content. The new one will require that I use learned signals to select it's input. I'm sure I'll have questions when I start that.

Thank you for this forum.

Best,
jeff