Help Upgrading Kameleon 9962

sickofit · Post by **sickofit** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:31 pm

First timer here....no JP1...

Tried upgrading the remote by phone through customer service,but couldn't get it to take the upgrade for some reason....

Curious if anyone here has the .wav file for upgrading the kameleon 9962 remote to accept Sony DVD codes 1431,1432 and 1433 so I can try that...or a way to get those codes on there without the jp1 cable...

You guys would make my month...!!!

TIA..

Post by **The Robman** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:01 pm

You can program modem-equiped remotes using JP1 without a cable. You go through all the normal steps, as outlined in the documentation, then instead of clicking "uoload to remote" in IR.exe, you export the results to a WAV file and load it into your remote that way.

sickofit · Post by **sickofit** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:38 pm

I have no idea were to even begin.....tried reading through the documentation,but ...

I need dvd codes 1431,1432 and 1433 put in for a sony DVD Recorder\Vcr Combo RDR-VX500,but like I said I have no idea were to begin....

Any help is appreciatted..!!!

TIA

MaskedMan · Post by **MaskedMan** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:29 pm

I have the Canadian version of the 9910, the 9911, if you take it apart the modem is there. But on the remote menu the upgrade feature is purposely disabled. Gets me thinking of other Canadian market remotes like your 9962?

Anthony_Patrick · Post by **Anthony_Patrick** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:41 pm

The Kameleon 8 - model 9962 (I have one), does not have a true modem in it! What it has is an "inductive" pick-up loop centered just behind the device keys selection panel. It uses magnetic induction from the telephone headset to "download" the codes... This works best with an old style telephone headset and even then it is sometimes difficult if the signal is weak. The newer small "cute" phones, cell phones, PC speakers, etc. won't work! If you want to use your PC to "download" wavefiles, you might try picking up an inductive telephone pickup from Radio Shack (the thing you "stick" onto a telephone headset to record conversations). Plug this into the headphone output of the amplifier you use with your P.C. and stick it underneath the device keys selection panel. You might need to buy / scrounge (from a broken transistor radio) a "step up" transformer as well to boost the signal into the pickup.

The easiest way to set codes is to invest in a JP1 cable and a POGO adapter.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:55 pm

Anthony_Patrick wrote:The Kameleon 8 - model 9962 (I have one), does not have a true modem in it! What it has is an "inductive" pick-up loop centered just behind the device keys selection panel. It uses magnetic induction from the telephone headset

That's what all the OneForAll "modems" are.

Anthony_Patrick wrote:The newer small "cute" phones, cell phones, PC speakers, etc. won't work!

Lots of people have managed to use PC speakers.

It is important to understand that the remote is not receiving the sound; It is receiving the magnetic field that is used inside the speaker to move the diaphram that produces the sound. I don't know that much about newer methods for producing sound, but I assume technology has gotten a lot better at producing more sound with less magnetic field than an old telephone handset.

That may require lower tech speakers, and if the speakers are built inside the computer enclosure (behind the metal grill that keeps the computer from generating RF interference for nearby devices) you probably need to get more direct access. The sound goes through a metal grill very well. I don't think the magnetic field goes through very well.

Anthony_Patrick · Post by **Anthony_Patrick** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:02 pm

None the less - I have never been successful at using anything other than an old style telephone handset when downloading an upgrade from UEI to my Kameleon-8 URC9962. In fact UEI warns you not to use a cell phone for the upgrade and even tell you that some phones won't work. Small speakers (the type used in PC amplifiers) do not produce much of a magenetic field and many of them are "magnetically shielded" so as not to interfere with CRT monitors - ie: they produce almost no magnetic field outside of thier enclosure. I have not taken apart a URC8910 (which is also upgradeable) or the US version of the Kameleon (model URC9960) so I can't comment if those remotes use built-in microphones or not. The URC9962 does not and relies on magnetic induction - it has a simple 1 inch diameter wire loop mounted on the bottom of the printed circuit board which is designed to pick-up the magnetic field from a nearby telephone headset... My PC speakers just don't cut it.