Insignia 13" TV/DVD Combo - unknown protocol.

us035976 · Post by **us035976** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:58 pm

I have a OFA URC9910B01 remote that I have learned buttons from a remote for my Insignia 13" TV/DVD Combo.

I am using IR.exe v 6.20 and when I downloaded from the remote the codes for all the 'Learned Signals' have a protocol like "Gap-526-3731-17?". The second group has the numbers 500, 502 or 526 in it and in the third group the numbers range in the 3730's - 3740's with the last group always 17?. The Device, Sub-Device, OBC, HexCmd, EFC and Misc. columns are all their defaults or blank and the same for all the learned buttons.

This doesn't match what I found in the Beginners file under How Do You Create An Upgrade From Scratch?, where it talks about decoding the learned signals. There it shows a protocol and then actual data in the Device, Sub-Device, OBC, HexCmd, EFC and Misc. columns.

Help!!!

Post by **The Robman** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:08 pm

This means you have found a protocol that we don't know about. Please learn as many buttons as you can, including the numeric buttons, and post your IR file for us to look at.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:11 pm

Maybe it is a protocol we don't know yet and this haven't added to DecodeIR.dll and probably haven't added to RM or KM either.

Maybe you are doing something systematically wrong in learning. Probably not, because I wouldn't expect that -17? part to be consistent for learning errors.

Anyway the best thing to do is upload a .ir file containing those learned signals to our diagnosis are and post the URL back here.

One of the experts will help.

us035976 · Post by **us035976** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:39 pm

I uploaded the IR file to https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3782

Thanks for any help.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:50 pm

Rob, do you recognise it or have any good ideas?

The burst right before the lead-out is confusing the generic decoder (so the "Gap" decode is less informative than usual). I also don't recall whether/how that can be done in an upgrade using the basic IR engine. Of course one can always do an upgrade that doesn't use the basic IR engine.

Post by **The Robman** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:20 pm

I can't think of a way to do it without adding some assembler. I think you would have to treat that pair as the leadout, which would let you use the IR engine for the bulk of the signal, then you would have to send the real leadout manually using assembler, and then do the whole "is the button held" test.

us035976 · Post by **us035976** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:33 am

Is there anything I can do (or re-do) to help you at all?

Rich

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:41 am

If you didn't capture all of the buttons, can you grab the rest of them now, and use the Notes box for buttons that have different names (eg, Angle, etc).

I have all the info I need to write an executor for you, and I may have some spare time today.

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:24 pm

I have created an executor and upgrade for this unit.

Once I examined the learned signals a bit closer, I noticed that the TV and DVD functions use different device codes, so in addition to a regular version of the executor, I went ahead and created a combo version, so you now have the choice of whether you want to use seperate upgrades for the TV and DVD functions, or whether you want one upgrade that combines all of the functions.

There are 3 files in the zip, one for just the TV functions, one for just the DVD functions and another that combines them all. If you go with seperate upgrades, even though both KM files will offer you a protocol upgrade, you only need to copy it once.

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3784

us035976 · Post by **us035976** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:21 pm

Thanks!!!! That was fast.

I was able to get it working with all the learned buttons I had included. How can I go about adding more learned buttons? I learned some more buttons but there doesn't seem to be a way to add them anywhere.

I'm planning on using the TV/DVD combo file. that way I don't have to switch between the 2 modes.

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:38 pm

You would have to post a second IR file containing the rest of the learned buttons and I will translate them into OBCs for you.

us035976 · Post by **us035976** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:11 pm

The rest of what I need is at https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3789

If it means anything the 'Enter' key learned signal from before can be deleted. It is a duplicate of the sleep key.

Rich[/url]

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:34 pm

I have added the new codes and updated the zip file.

us035976 · Post by **us035976** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:23 pm

Thanks Rob, it is working fine.

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Insignia 13" TV/DVD Combo - unknown protocol.

Insignia 13" TV/DVD Combo - unknown protocol.

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