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johnsfine · Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:58 am Post subject:

I'm confused by all this discussion of the HT Power Button as if it were a unique button.

The remote has a Power button and it has an HT button. Without an extender the HT button puts you in a strange mode which is sort of a combination of a few device modes.

I don't remember how the Power button acts when in HT mode. I used that remote very little without an extender, so I don't remember how it behaves. In some models HT mode makes the Power button totally useless. I don't think the 8811 is one of those models. I think the power button in HT mode is an ordinary button that inherits its behavior from some device mode.

I think HT mode is pretty badly flawed in all the models that have it. If you want a feature like HT mode you should use the extender. That will quickly add up to less total effort than trying to bend the remote's built in HT mode toward some reasonable behavior.

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usblipitor · Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 516 Location: Greenbelt, MD

If I remember correctly, you cannot directly put a macro on a device key like HT. I just tried it anyway, and you can't do it directly. Using IR you can do it using the macro tab.
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If one puts a macro on the "HT" key does this invalidate the standard functionality for the "HT" button.

johnsfine · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:51 pm Post subject:

Without an extender macros don't nest, so to access the original meaning of HT when a macro is defined for the HT key, you can use HT in a macro (the same one and/or another).

I'm not certain, but I think you can also trigger the standard function of HT using shifted HT when there is a macro on HT and neither KeyMove nor macro on shifted HT.

With an extender there is no standard functionality for HT. It's just a key available for KeyMoves or Macros (or as an alternate "shift" key, which is the way I use it on the 15-2104).

tau166 · Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 19

So, thanks again to everyone for the responses. It seems that even with an extender I can't do what I wanted to do exactly. Because "HT" is still not a device it doesn't have a seperate power button so I can't put a macro on the "power" key in home theater mode. Perhaps with DSMs I might be able to do this. We'll see. Thanks again.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

Now I'm not an expert, but consider myself a somewhat "advanced beginner" (now THERE's and oxymoron for ya'), but it seems to me that you can do PRECISELY what you want with an extender.

With most extenders that I have used, device selection is irrespective of the button used, since device selection can ONLY be done by a macro. I also believe your remote can have more "virtual" devices than actual device buttons (similar to my RS 15-2117). In your case, apparently "Aux" and "CD" are such "virtual" devices. Also, the extender creates key sets, ("volume", "transport", "Menu", etc.) that can be separately assigned (in fact MUST be individually assigned) to different devices in each device selection macro you set up. (The macro may do MORE than just device selection, but SOME macro will have to set these devices)

Now let's say you want, in HT mode, to have the "other" keyset (which includes the "Power" button) assigned to your tuner (for fav/scan, phantoms, what-have-you), and your tuner is already set up as the "Receiver" device. Assign one of these extra - virtual - devices the same device code settings as your "Receiver" device. Let's say you use "Aux". (This can also be done using a "real" device that is otherwise unused, i.e. you are not using for an actual "Cbl" or "Sat" or "VCR" piece of equipment.)

So first you would have to create a global macro on the HT button which will assign all of the device selections you desire to the "transport", "volume", etc, keysets, and have the "other" keyset (that contains the Power) assigned to "Aux" (rather than "receiver").

That gives you the desired functions for the rest of the "other" keyset. (You may have to duplicate some keymoves to achieve FULL desired matching functionality). Then it's simply a matter of creating a Device-specific macro for the "power" button in "Aux" device mode to turn on all of the components you desire. And voila!

If all of your device settings are already occupied, then I don't know what to tell you.

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