Help with learned signals from Philips 20C605 TV

[Omdrea]

Hi all,

I'm having a problem creating an upgrade for an old Philips TV in my daughters bedroom (very old, I think... picked it up at a pawn shop a few years back). Here's the pertinant info:

1. Device: Philips 20" Model 20C605 (not sure on model, only visible number is listed as chasis #)
2. Type of device: Television
3. Year: ?
4. JP1 Remote model: URC-8910 (and RS 15-2116)
5. JP1 user? yes
6. Still have original remote? No
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? No
10. Learning remote question?

The TV can be controlled with a cheap universal remote from RCA as well as an ExpressVu 9100 remote, but not sure what that code is on either (was found with the Code Search function). With the URC-8910 and RS 15-2116, there is no code that works with the TV - there is only one Philips code directly and I've checked all TV codes with code search. I've also downloaded every KM Philips file I've found (and a few Pronto conversions) but none have worked.

I can learn the universal remote and ExpressVu remote's commands successfully with the URC-8910 (they both provide identical learned signals), but those signals don't provide protocol, efc's, etc. with the exception of one command:

Button: Previous Channel
Protocol: Mitsubishi
Device: 42
EFC: 181

All other basic commands provide protocols such as:
Prot: Gap-524-6228-13?, Dev: 10

Here is a link to the learned codes from the URC-8910: Philips_20C605.IR

Any help creating an upgrade for KeymapMaster would be very much appreciated.

Thank for your eyes and time,

Omdrea

[The Robman]

I recognize the format of those signals, even though the frequency and burst times are different, as being the same as the ones discussed in the following thread...

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5256

I have just modified the protocol used in that thread to match the timings found in your learned signals, and here's the result...

Upgrade Code 0 = 0F D0 (TV/2000) Philips TV (Old) (KM v8.44)
FF 00 F3 A8 AC 98 88 90 B8 A8 B0 9C 8C 94 80 A0
B4 84 A4 C0 BC
End

Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FF (S3C8+) Philips TV (Old) (PB v3.11)
2C 61 11 8B 0F 85 81 0B 06 06 01 06 04 78 00 00
05 6E 34 44 8D 01 46
End

And here's a KM file...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3322

[Omdrea]

Hi Rob.

Worked perfectly. I have never spent much time in the programming details of remote ICs, so I'd be hard pressed to guess how you recognized these signals so fast, but I must say from an outsiders perspective that I'm impressed with your eye and expertise.

More, I thank you for such a quick and flawless response. Your energy expended on this is very much appreciated... My daughter thanks you as well.

Have a wonderful week,

Omdrea

[The Robman]

I have never spent much time in the programming details of remote ICs, so I'd be hard pressed to guess how you recognized these signals so fast

When I converted the signals to binary, at first it appeared that the signals were variable length, which would be unlikely. Then I noticed that one of the pairs was really 2 pairs, and I recalled seeing this before, so I searched for the word "double" in posts made by me and I found the other thread.

The format of the signals is identical (see the other thread for details) but the frequency and the burst times are different, so I simply imported the other protocol into PB and change those details.