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Jag_Man653
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 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: Will IR.exe work with simple parallel interface on XP Pro? |
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I started a thread "Hooking up the One For All to computer" a
week or so ago. After following all the tips received there
and not getting it to work on my XP Pro machine I am
wondering it is a security barrier problem. I suspect it
is, because it works on my other computer running ME. That
means the cable is OK and the remote is OK. While it could
be that the parallel port on my XP machine is somehow different,
I doubt that because it drives my HP LaserJet 4L printer just
fine.
So, has anyone here gotten the simple parallel interface to run
under XP Pro?
Ed
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e34m5
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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I use it all the time with XPPro. So we'll ask the obvios question:
Do you have admin rights when using the interface?
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The Robman
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Is it possible that there's a printer driver that's holding onto the port and not releasing it to IR.exe?
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Jag_Man653
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| e34m5 wrote: | I use it all the time with XPPro. So we'll ask the obvios question:
Do you have admin rights when using the interface? |
Paul,
Yes. Forgot to mention that someone else asked me that. It's a good
point, though. Thanks.
Ed
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Jag_Man653 wrote: |
So, has anyone here gotten the simple parallel interface to run
under XP Pro? |
Yes.
I didn't have any trouble (on the only XP pro computer I tried) so I haven't any special insight into what might be going wrong for you.
You seem to understand that you need administrator priv and IR must be able to install the driver it uses to deprotect the printer port. But that might still be what is going wrong.
I've read (but not carefully enough to understand) various posts about printer port config choices made within BIOS setup that IR.EXE might care about even though an actual printer may not care. That is my best guess of what is going wrong for you. But that is only a guess (and a vague guess until you find one of the threads on that subject). |
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whompus
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I seem to remember having that problem on a friends comp we setup for his jp1 use. I think we went into the properties of the port under control panel and selected for the port to never use interrupt. |
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Jag_Man653
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| The Robman wrote: | | Is it possible that there's a printer driver that's holding onto the port and not releasing it to IR.exe? |
Rob,
I have thought about that and done everything I can to be sure it's not being used by anything else. For example, I deleted the local printer that was physically plugged into the port. When I look at the properties
of the installed printers I find no reference to LPT1, which is what this port is named in Windows and in BIOS. But One always wonders what
Windows is doing...
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Jag_Man653
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| johnsfine wrote: |
You seem to understand that you need administrator priv and IR must be able to install the driver it uses to deprotect the printer port. But that might still be what is going wrong.
I've read (but not carefully enough to understand) various posts about printer port config choices made within BIOS setup that IR.EXE might care about even though an actual printer may not care. That is my best guess of what is going wrong for you. But that is only a guess (and a vague guess until you find one of the threads on that subject). |
Regarding the IR driver, I can say that when I click on Interface|Driver status in IR it says the parallel/series driver is working. Also, I know that SOME communication is going on, since if I turn off Interface|Auto check and do Download it throws up the "No response " message and THEN
the LED on the remote blinks once.
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Jag_Man653
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| whompus wrote: | | I seem to remember having that problem on a friends comp we setup for his jp1 use. I think we went into the properties of the port under control panel and selected for the port to never use interrupt. |
That's the way mine is set.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Right click on "My Computer" select Properties then Hardware then device manager and make sure there are no printers. The control panel delete of a printer does not always remove the driver.
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Jag_Man653
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Nils_Ekberg wrote: | | Right click on "My Computer" select Properties then Hardware then device manager and make sure there are no printers. The control panel delete of a printer does not always remove the driver. |
THanks, Nils. The Device manager shows the parallel port, but
no printers. But I'm not sure printers would show up in Device Manager,
would they?
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Nils_Ekberg
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My printer does show up when I plug it in but mine is a USB printer so that may be different.
I am sure in device manager you checked the properties of the LPT port and it looks fine. I wonder if it is worth it to uninstall it and reboot and see what happens. I think the fact that it shows in DM means it has a driver attached to it. Worth a try anyway.
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Jag_Man653
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Nils_Ekberg wrote: | My printer does show up when I plug it in but mine is a USB printer so that may be different.
I am sure in device manager you checked the properties of the LPT port and it looks fine. I wonder if it is worth it to uninstall it and reboot and see what happens. I think the fact that it shows in DM means it has a driver attached to it. Worth a try anyway. |
Nils,
My printer is hooked to a Netgear Firewall router with a printer port. A Netgear provided program adds a port to the Windows Ports list, then the printer can be added using that port. I do not think that has anything to do with the physical parallel port associated with LPT1 that I hook the JP1 cable to. But, maybe I should uninstall the printer, remove the Netgear added port and see if that has any effect.
I think you are correct that LPT1 has an associated driver. It shows up in DM. But as far as I know, little can be done about that. I have tried disabling LPT, removing LPT, deleting the driver for LPT1, and none of these things changes the behavior of IR Interface|Check interface. Moreover, LPT gets automatically reinstalled when I reboot.
I've ordered a USB interface.
Ed
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jhuff72
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: LPT ports |
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In modern computers the LPT ports are pretty much an after thought, with everything printers, to keyboards, mice and even sound cards moving to USB/Firewire as fast as hardware companies can rewrite drivers etc.
My best advice would be to simplify your computer, or a single computer for this purpose. Remove any unnecessary USB devices, any unnecessary Printer software from your Manufacturer and be sure that you have eliminated that Internet printing software that comes with Adobe or Norton products (can't remember which).
Lastly be sure you have correctly reset your BIOS to work properly with IR, which is covered elsewhere here.
When all else fails.....KISS seldom does. |
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jherrick
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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I use XP Pro on both my PC and my LT and IR works fine on both.
In IR, transmission delay is 0.
In Windows Device Manager, LPT1 Settings, Port Settings: Try not to use an interrupt; Enable Legacy P & P...; LPT1.
Driver is Microsoft Version 5.1.2600.0, 7/1/2001.
Resources, I/O Range 0378-037F; IRQ 07.
There's not much else I can give you. |
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