URC-9910 Extender 1 : Cannot shift-phantom1 to turn on TV

Bebert2 · Post by **Bebert2** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:35 pm

Hi!

I've switched from the RCU810 to the URC-9910. I'm almost completely set, using Extender 1.

I've chosen to remove the Phantom1 macro that's there by default when you enable the extender. This means that I need to "activate" the keysets (transport, chan, other...) before I actually program the key in the macro.

I have my TV's discrete on set on shift-Phantom1 in RM.

My M2 key goes as follows :

M2 : DEV_TV; SET_OTHER_KEYS; TV; SHIFT-PHANTOM1

It doesn't work. The TV doesn't turn on. Does anyone have any idea?

Thanks!

Bee

sfhub · Post by **sfhub** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:02 pm

Isn't "TV" a macro that calls phantom1.

Bebert2 · Post by **Bebert2** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:23 pm

Hi sf,

No, TV is only assigned to : DEV_TV...

Post by **ElizabethD** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:51 am

Besides what sfhub is hinting at, I'd check few more things, but I don't have an answer:
1. Does DiscreteON work when you assign it to some key you can actually push, such as shift-1 or menu, then when shift-1 or menu is in M2 macro does it still fail?
2. What, if anything, did you code on the TV button used in the M2 macro
3. Where did do the key sets assignment, are they active when you push M2?
4. Did you include SET_LCD someplace so that you can see on the display which device you're talking to?

Nils_Ekberg · Post by **Nils_Ekberg** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:07 am

The Phantom buttons may not be in the other buttons set. Try setting all the set_ functions and see if it works. If so delete a set_* until it stops working. Ten you will know for sure which set they are in.

And just a side thought. Make sure the shift-phantom showed up in the keymoves after you imported from RM

Bebert2 · Post by **Bebert2** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:43 pm

Thanks for your replies! I'm getting there...

Assuming I removed the generic Phantom1 macro that calls all the SET_* commands, would these two macros be the most efficient way to turn everything on and off?

M1 : DEV_TV; SET_OTHER_KEYS; Shift-Phantom1 (discrete on); DEV_RCVR; SET_OTHER_KEYS; power; DEV_CBL; SET_OTHER_KEYS; SET_LCD; SET_TRANS_KEYS; SET_CHAN_KEYS; power

M2 : DEV_TV; SET_OTHER_KEYS; Shift-Phantom2 (discrete off); DEV_RCVR; SET_OTHER_KEYS; Shift-power (turns it off); DEV_CBL; SET_OTHER_KEYS; power

In other words, since i'm using the power key to manipulate the receiver and cable box, is it required to SET_OTHER_KEYS before each power command (involving the power button, wether it's shifted or not) ?

*edit*

One last thing, it seems to be working, but seems I need to keep my M2 button pressed down until the sequence has been sent to cause some behavior change on the cable box... If I do a quick keypress, the other devices react correctly, except the cable box. I need to hold the M2 down in order to turn off the cable box.

Thanks!!!

Nils_Ekberg · Post by **Nils_Ekberg** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:55 pm

No need to do the set_other every time. When you do the DEV_device it will default to the correct power button for that device.

As far as having to hold the button that may be related to the signal being sent is too short and when you hold it it will repeat the function. You could try adding a second command back to back with the other and see what happens when you just tap the button.

sfhub · Post by **sfhub** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:48 am

Well, it's good you have it mostly working, but you seem to be implementing in a strange way. I'm not sure if you realize, there are specific "DiscreteOn" and "DiscreteOff" virtual buttons where you can store the DiscreteOn/DiscreteOff for each device. It is much clearer than using Shift-Phantom1 and Shift-Phantom2.

Your all on macro would be:
DEV_TV; DiscreteOn; DEV_RCVR; DiscreteOn; SET_VOL_KEYS; DEV_CBL; DiscreteOn; SET_OTHER_KEYS; SET_LCD; SET_TRANS_KEYS; SET_CHAN_KEYS

Personally I would consider leaving the cable box always on as most cable boxes do not have discrete on/off and most do not use any less power when turned off.

Also for devices which do not have true discreteOn/Off, I'd suggest using toadtogs to simulate discretes. Otherwise your All On and All Off macros don't work very well when you press All On twice.

Bebert2 · Post by **Bebert2** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:46 am

Hi!

I've chosen to leave the cable box on all the time. Maybe it's the infrared/RF (URC-9910) signals that were conflicting and the cable box wouldn't deal with the power toggle properly.

Hmmm, where would I find those Discreteon and Discreteoff buttons? In RM? I thought I had to use phantoms...

Nils_Ekberg · Post by **Nils_Ekberg** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:01 am

The discrete on and off are actually phantom buttons with a different name. You can actually name the buttons anything you want. You can find them in RM, KM and IR if they existed but there are none defined in the 9910 RDF just 3 Phantoms.