JP1 Remotes

[rocketkarl]

Right now, I am using the keymover feature of my remote to map the discrete input selection keys from the RCVR to the same button under each device. In other words, whatever device mode I'm on in the remote, when I hit that key, it syncs the RCVR to the input for that device.

Now that I have a JP1 cable, I'd like to do the same for the TV, but I don't have a bunch of extra buttons on the TV device mode to map the discete codes there. I'm wondering if there's a way to bypass that, and just for example, put the discete code for COMP-1 for the TV on a button under the CBL mode?

Is that what is meant by NEC combo? Or is that something I would do in KM under Key Moves tab?

Thanks much.

[Nils_Ekberg]

[rocketkarl]

I have the OFA URC 8910, which does have HomeTheatre mode, but I don't use it.

Here's the thing though. I don't want a button to be punched through (like PIP). I want a button that when I'm in CBL mode, it tells the TV to switch to COMP-1. When I'm in DVD mode, I want that same button to switch the TV to COMP-2.

So, its kind of like combo, since I want most keys in CBL mode to be CBL box commands, but I want a key at the bottom to be the discrete COMP-1 button for the TV, and the key next to it to be discrete DVD-input for the RCVR.

I guess I can just map all the discerete inputs for the TV to the FF,PLAY,RW type buttons, and then keymove the releveant one to the same buttom key under each device. I was just trying to not confuse the TV mode by having to do that.
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OFA URC 8910

[johnsfine]

[rocketkarl]

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it might use less mem space to include it in the upgrade, which is why I was trying to force it in there.

Also, I guess I didn't realize that IR had more functions than KM. I thought KM was just the easier UI for setting things up. But now I see that KM is really just the first step, for getting all the normal buttons defined, and IR defines the advanced stuff.

Thanks.
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OFA URC 8910

[johnsfine]

Key definitions that are really in an upgrade DO take less space than those in a KeyMove, but this one couldn't be really in the upgrade unless you made a monster device combiner protocol and even then it might not.

KM and RM let you define some keys as part of the process of defining an upgrade even though those keys (for a variety of reasons) can't really be part of the upgrade. In those cases KM or RM pass those definitions to IR as KeyMoves when you copy the upgrade to IR. The resulting KeyMoves are no different from KeyMoves you could create yourself in IR.

The effective difference (between defining a KeyMove in KM or in IR) exists only on the PC. There it is an issue of recording the "why" as well as the "what" of what you've defined for your remote. If the keys are logically part of the upgrade they belong with the upgrade in KM or RM, so the right things happen when:
1) You look at your work a year later and try to remember your intent.
2) You upload your work to the group for use by someone who has the same CBL tuner you have but not the same TV or vice versa.
3) You replace a device and must replace that device's contribution to your remote's configuration.

[rocketkarl]

Thanks. Having played with IR for abit now, I understand what you're saying. And I followed that approach. I'm almost full on keymoves though, so if I need to add anything else I'll either need to:

1) replace some key moves with learned keys
2) get all the keyboard learned keys into an update so I can start using an extender

[lisadaveh]

I took the extender plunge 3 days ago, and while it took a bit of time to follow the instructions to a T, once I was done, I really have the hang of it. I could easily do it again with only a glance at the instructions. I highly reccommend that you try the extenders as they will make your remote a thousand times more functional than original settings.

I think you will have to get rid of all those learning keys by using KeyMaster, but I found it was well worth all the work