Actual OneForAll Smart Control Pro Remotes (URC 7981 / URC 7985) useable with RemoteMaster

[MacGyver_MUC]

Dear All,

I recently got an OneForAll Smart Control Pro 8 (URC 7981 R00) and I`m wondering if this Remote could also be programmed locally through RemoteMaster.

(Today I have run in diffrent Problems with App-Programming; mostly that completly learned devices are not shown as device entry after learning them. Additionally I have problems with LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN-Buttons of the learned remote (Dune HD Premier 4K - Google-Remote); I assume this is a result of any learning problem. So I hope that I could use RemoteMaster somehow for better programming.)

First challenge: The Remote (URC 7981 R00) does not have a PIN-Out soldered in; only blank PCB-Holes.




Devices/Remotes I plan to use:
TV: Samsung GU43TU6979
STB: Vu+ Duo 4K SE
Mediaplayer 1: Dune HD Premier 4K (Google-Android-Remote)
Mediaplayer 2: Kodi Libreelec / VDR Linux [www.tvdr.de] (Generic-RC6-Windows-Remote should work)
Soundbar: Samsung Q995GF
HDMI-eARC-Switch: Feintech VAX04201 or VAX04101 or AX340

Any help / suggestions are greately appreciated!

Best regards,
MacGyver (from Munich, Germany)

[The Robman]

We don't have an RDF for the 7981, but we do have one for the 7980. I don't know if these 2 remotes are similar.

Do you have soldering skills? If so, you should solder in a 6-pin connector into the spot where it is designed to go, and I am confident that we can get this remote working with JP1. Of course, you will also need a JP1 cable.

Today I have run in diffrent Problems with App-Programming; mostly that completly learned devices are not shown as device entry after learning them. Additionally I have problems with LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN-Buttons of the learned remote (Dune HD Premier 4K - Google-Remote); I assume this is a result of any learning problem. So I hope that I could use RemoteMaster somehow for better programming.)

I think you have some misunderstanding of how learning and device creation work. You should probably start reading the Wiki.

Devices/Remotes I plan to use:
TV: Samsung GU43TU6979
STB: Vu+ Duo 4K SE
Mediaplayer 1: Dune HD Premier 4K (Google-Android-Remote)
Mediaplayer 2: Kodi Libreelec / VDR Linux [www.tvdr.de] (Generic-RC6-Windows-Remote should work)
Soundbar: Samsung Q995GF
HDMI-eARC-Switch: Feintech VAX04201 or VAX04101 or AX340

We probably have ready-made upgrades for most of your devices, but as you have a learning remote, we can help you create upgrades, once you get everything working.

[MacGyver_MUC]

We don't have an RDF for the 7981, but we do have one for the 7980. I don't know if these 2 remotes are similar.

Have seen that (7980) in the list of supported remotes in RemoteMaster. How to know if it will somehow work with the "7980"-Type in RemoteMaster? And if that will not work: What has to done to get a completely new remote - namely URC 7981- into Remote Master?

Do you have soldering skills? If so, you should solder in a 6-pin connector into the spot where it is designed to do, and I am confident that we can get this remote working with JP1. Of course, you will also need a JP1 cable.

Unfortunately I personally don`t have PCB-Soldering-Skills; but I hope that an "old" radio- and television technican and his company I know could help me with that.

For the JP1 Cable I found a FTDI FT232 RL-Cable at a german webshop: https://www.welectron.com/FTDI-FT232RL- ... apterkabel
Does this look suitable?!

I think you have some misunderstanding of how learning and device creation work. You should probably start reading the Wiki.

I wonder what I might could have done wrong: I just used the official OFA Advanced Android App and completely manually learned in the source remote of the Dune HD Premier 4K (the one profile available in the OFA-Database has not work; I assume they only have the profile for non Android TV-Devices of Dune HD) by placing the source remote 2 cm before the OFA and learn each button press manually. After finishing that unfortunately the official Android OFA-App does not show the learned device (but has learned it and its working OK for most button presses).

As the remotes definition is publicly available https://dune-hd.com/support/rc/dunehd_g ... codes.html with Pronto HEX Codes I assume it will be easy to import such a remote through RemoteMaster. (Also hoping that imported buttons will also work better as the manually learned ones!)

Best regards,
MacGyver

[The Robman]

When you previously mentioned the "app", I assumed you were talking about the JP1 app "RemoteMaster" (as you're on a JP1 forum), but now I see that you're talking about some "official OFA Advanced Android" app that I hadn't heard of before, so I don't know anything about it. Regardless, you say the OFA app "does not show the learned device" but then in the same sentence you say "but it has learned it and it's working OK" so I am confused, do the learns work or not, and if they do, what do you mean by "does not show the learned device"? If it doesn't show it, how did you confirm that it works? Can you see where I'm getting lost?

As for the 7980 vs. 7981, I have no idea if they are similar enough to share an RDF or now, we won't know that until you get JP1 set up and do a download from the remote. If the 7981 has a different signature to the 7980, we will need to create a new RDF for you.

In the JP1 world, the way "learning" and "devices" work together is like this. Assuming you have a new device for which there isn't a ready-made upgrade, you would "learn" the buttons from the OEM remote using the JP1 learning remote, then you would download the memory using your JP1 cable and the RMIR side of the "RemoteMaster" program. This would show you what the learns look like (ie, the protocol, device code and button codes). You would then use that information to create a device upgrade, which you would then use instead of the learned signals.