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App Launch Buttons on Samsung Smart Remotes (Disney+)

 
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J.P. Samson



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:20 am    Post subject: App Launch Buttons on Samsung Smart Remotes (Disney+) Reply with quote

I've noticed on the latest Samsung Smart Remotes that come with their TVs (e.g. QN90B) that they've added a Disney+ App Launch button. Unless someone knows otherwise, I don't think there is a Hex Cmd/OBC in the Samsung TV Master File representing this app? (I haven't found one yet.)

If not, does anyone know if there is a way to get the Samsung Smart Remote to operate purely in IR mode so that I can try to grab the IR signals for its buttons? The remote insistently tries to get a Bluetooth connection when pressing any of the buttons (e.g. repeatedly sends the Bluetooth Scan Hex:74 IR signal). That's the only IR signal being emitted. I've tried various reset/factory restore button combos on the Samsung Smart Remote to no avail. Once a Bluetooth connection is successfully established, the remote no longer emits IR signals.

Now, here's a weird thing. I did manage to grab a seemingly valid IR signal (using an Xsight Color) for the Disney+ button once. ... Just once. But I've never managed to repeat this feat. The IR recording works perfectly for me to get the TV to launch Disney+ on my Xsight Color. I even successfully transferred the IR signal to a OneForAll URC4810 using its IR-receiver learning function.

The Pronto code and timings for this Disney+ IR recording is:
Code:
0000 0074 0015 0000 002D 002C 000F 0015 000F 0020 000F 0057 000F 0015 000F 0035 0010 0060 000F 0035 0010 0060 000F 0020 000F 0015 000F 0015 000F 0C3F 000B 0022 000A 000F 000A 0019 000A 1242 000B 0022 000A 000F 000A 0019 000A 1242
Code:
+1260 -1218; +420 -594; +420 -898; +420 -2436; +420 -594; +420 -1496; +448 -2686; +420 -1496; +448 -2686; +420 -898; +420 -594; +420 -594; +420 -87722; +308 -948; +280 -422; +280 -700; +280 -130790; +308 -948; +280 -422; +280 -700; +280 -130790;
This cannot be decoded into a known protocol.

I just thought I'd post this here as it might be useful to others with Samsung TVs. It would be nice to figure out a protocol for this remote, but with this limited information I can't see how I can make any further progress at this point.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest that you start with the Samsung TV master file (link below), and then try all of the gap codes (OBCs only go up to 255). It might be a good idea to re-test all of the "app" codes first, just in case any of them are for retired apps that might have been re-purposed.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=13742

The easiest way to test the gap codes is to create new upgrades that have all of the OBCs that are not accounted for in the master file, then load them up to your remote and test all of the buttons. If any of them do anything, make a note of which button/upgrade it was, so you can come back to your RMIR file to see which OBC it was.

If you find anything, please list it here and I'll add them to the master file.

Here's an upgrade with all of the current gap codes:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26771
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n8nagel



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you go into the TV menu and unpair the remote? That's how to do what you're trying to do with a modern Sony.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just following along for fun here, but if you have a learning remote, wouldn't you just learn the code for that button? Or am I missing something?

Sorry to intrude...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IR Scope reads the Disney+ command as

Protocol NECx
Device 7.7
OBC 223
Hex 04
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetstar52 wrote:
IR Scope reads the Disney+ command as

Protocol NECx
Device 7.7
OBC 223
Hex 04

Thank you for working that out. Yes, using the usual Samsung NECx2 protocol, that does indeed invoke the Disney+ app. This OBC/Hex was previously assigned the function "Standard Picture Mode" in the Samsung Master File.
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J.P. Samson



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

n8nagel wrote:
Can you go into the TV menu and unpair the remote? That's how to do what you're trying to do with a modern Sony.

Unfortunately, on Samsung TVs the remote does not appear in the list of Bluetooth devices (i.e. it is a hidden device). Nor is it a simple matter to disable Bluetooth on the TV as it requires going into a service menu.

Ed wrote:
I'm just following along for fun here, but if you have a learning remote, wouldn't you just learn the code for that button? Or am I missing something?

Indeed, but even though the Samsung remote has an IR emitter, it only uses it to turn the TV on/off or request the TV enter its Bluetooth pairing mode to bind with the remote. All other button press actions are sent via Bluetooth only to the TV.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you are wondering, the OBC for the other two App buttons that should launch Netflix and Amazon Prime on new Samsung remotes should be: 243 and 244.

I don't connect my TV to the internet (because I don't want to let Samsung update its firmware without my consent) so I don't know which one is which. I only get the "You must agree to the terms and conditions...." dialog.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm slowly working my way through the OBCs in the Samsung Master File. I first did the unassigned OBCs, revealing some possible Applications and Functions. In the case of the former, a popup stated that the particular Application was not available in my geographical area (Canada) without telling me its name. Similarly, the unknown Function produced a popup that indicated it as not available. I did test the function in several contexts to see if I could find its specific use, but to no avail.
  1. OBC 60: Application - Unknown
  2. OBC 64: Application - Unknown
  3. OBC 81: Application - Unknown
  4. OBC 218: Application - Unknown
  5. OBC 219: Application - Unknown
  6. OBC 234: Function - Unavailable
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