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DiscreteON/OFF phantom buttons in RDFs
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Should RDFs include phantoms, including DiscreteON/OFF phantoms?
No, no phantoms in RDFs, period.
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Yes to phantoms, no to discretes.
50%
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Yes to phantoms and discretes.
50%
 50%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 14

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tranx



Joined: 13 May 2012
Posts: 674
Location: Hants, UK

PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mdavej wrote:
We have what, 10,000 users at least and have taken a very unscientific poll of 12 of them so far. Not a good sample size. Besides, one of the founding fathers of JP1 and site owner should have veto power anyway (IOW, please stick around Rob).
Me too, and thanks for discussing it Rob because that has been helpful.
I think I now see that, when a function is mainly going to be used from a phantom,
(or in the case where a function is to be tucked away on an obscure normal button),
RMIR's facility for editing the function labels could already be useful, especially for a novice who might have been confused or not sure how to vote Confused
(edited:)With function labels edited to show in brackets [where they are allocated]

e.g.
for function labels edited to go just on phantom buttons:
"DiscreteOn[for:phant#DiscreteOn]"
"Hdmi1[for:phant#11]"

For function labels edited to go just on obscure buttons:
"Hdmi1[for:Shift-Extra,Xshift-AV]"

- It may be some help to remember where obscure functions have been put,
but it remains to be seen how much use that will be...
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pH7_jp1



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob, please don't let a little debate effect your fun. For some people, debating is "fun". Smile I don't think anyone here is upset with anyone else - I know I am not. It has been great having you around again. I would much rather have the discussion go away and have everything remain as-is than to have you choose to not participate.
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MrMoody



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a little late to the debate because I don't check the forum frequently.

I voted to put the discretes in simply because it makes programming macros easier. However, I can see the point that it's a violation of the fundamental design, and like the rest of you I can deal with it myself, anyway.

I have a better solution although it's probably more trouble than it's worth.

What would be nice is for the macro view to show the effective function for each key, but this would require RMIR to keep track of the current effective device for each key (including external functions and keymoves) to build the display. For example, a macro could look like:
TV
Phantom1(Power on)
Shift-1(5sec)
Red(Hdmi1)
etc.

In other words make RMIR do the work of figuring out what function will be sent instead of having to do it manually. Then you could take all the discretes out of the RDFs. I'd volunteer for that, it wouldn't be too hard.

In any case, it's not a big deal to me, I can live with it like it is ...
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