Programming of URC 7950 fails.

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Rolfaa
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Programming of URC 7950 fails.

Post by Rolfaa »

I downloaded and saved from my URC 7950 a few months ago. Since then I've used the learn function to complete the functions, but when I try to restore from the last saved file I get error msg:

signature different between remote and signature to write to the remote.

I try to continue the operation but get msg of write error.

When I test the remote I find that it works ok, the codes for TV are ok and I have only tried to modify the SAT codes. I am using IR v 8.02.

The codes for SAT seems to be lost, that may be because I tried erasing upper memory.

Is there anything I can do to get out of this situation?
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Post by Rolfaa »

I don't give up before I am beaten. I downloaded from the 7950, and uploaded the same file - with no problems. Ergo, the remote is ok.

I uplooaded an old file, still no problems.

My problem was that I was trying to upload a file saved from a Dreambox remote to the 7950. No wonder I was warned about signature error!

Good to know.

The 7950 was able to learn from the VU+ remote, both the numeric and the left, right, and down buttons ok, but the up button created a code that ir did not find 'edible', and it didn't work. Would it be possible, if one knew the proper code, that it could be entered manually in ir?
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Post by mdavej »

Yes. Post your file with the learns and more details about this VU+.
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Re: Programming of URC 7950 fails.

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Rolfaa wrote: The codes for SAT seems to be lost, that may be because I tried erasing upper memory
Do not do that!!! Cleaning upper memory is an advanced tool for rdf creation. It isn't something to make your remote more efficient.

Like mdavej said, post your file to find out what went wrong with your learn. Chances are you missed the first part of the signal. We'lll know when we see the learn.
Last edited by vickyg2003 on Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Post by Rolfaa »

All right, I will get back to that. What about current OFA remotes, do they have the ir contact or can one be installed?

The "Essence 2", URC 7120 would be sufficient for TV + STB and OFA might perhaps also have the codes. Harmony might be an alternative, but I've never been a Harmony fan.
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Post by 3FG »

The URC-7130 and 7140 both have a JP1 connector. They are from the same series as the 7120, but I don't know if the 7120 has the connector.

But it should be pretty easy to make the URC-7950 work. Post the IR file with the learns and we'll give you a hand.
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Post by Rolfaa »

I always get this error message when learning the VU+ up button to the 7950:


"The learned data BurstSpec appears to be malformed. Learned data parsing is stopped at $13CA.

Use the Advanced>Clean Upper Memory option to clear the unused device/protocol/learned memory areas and relearn the signal."

With that problem I don't know if an ir file would be of any use but anyway I'll have to do some learning myself on "How to upload a code file to forum". Too late this evening, will look into it tomorrow.[/code]
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Post by Rolfaa »

Good news: All ok now!

I tried wiping out all learned commands except the ones for the SAT device before, but that didn't solve the problem.

But today it worked and I guess I must have done something wrong the first time. There was a lot of learned in all of the 5 devices but I erased all the three that I don't use.

EDIT: Thought I was done but test showed quite erratic operation. Pushing the SAT button activates the TV SOURCE selection. The up and down buttons work the first time but then start making two jumps. Maybe the 7950 isn't quite compatible. Maybe because VU+ used Philips to design the remote.
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Post by mdavej »

We can get this all sorted out if you post your file. Go here and press the Upload button:
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... &cat_id=35

I can see from the VU+ upgrade below that this is a toggling protocol, which explains the erratic behavior of your learns. I'd try that upgrade first.

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=11768
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Post by Rolfaa »

Great, but what do I do with a RMDU file? Sorry for my ignorance. Will search for RMDU info. Both here and Google.
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Post by mdavej »

Rolfaa wrote:Great, but what do I do with a RMDU file? Sorry for my ignorance. Will search for RMDU info. Both here and Google.
What do you normally use, KM files?

Copy/Paste this into IR like you would if you were using KM:
Upgrade Code2 = 17 DD (SAT/2013) vu+duo (RM v2.03 Alpha 22 Test 5)
01 2A 0C 7E FE FE A1 A9 32 95 55 66 59 59 69 5B
5A 0D 58 59 0C 54 20 21 11 10 5C 31 55 CC E4 F2
E5 81 29 49 2C 30 28 B9
KeyMoves
1A F0 04 17 DD 37 7B«record»
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Post by vickyg2003 »

An rdmu file allows you to add a new setup code to your remote just like KeymapMaster. Both work with IR, but RemoteMaster also comes with its own version of IR called RMIR

read this
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Post by Rolfaa »

Oh no, I am using .ir files from, I don't know, maybe ten, fifteen years ago?

Seems I'll have to learn to use KM, is new to me.

Sorry I have to squeeze the remote control problem handling in between other chores these days so it will be much of an on-off affair for a while.

I will try to handle your input ASAP and won't be back before I have got things sorted out as far as I may manage on my own in the meantime.
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Post by mdavej »

Don't bother with KM. Learn RM instead.
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Post by Rolfaa »

I think I succeeded in my first time uploading a file to this forum:

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=12497

The Sat learned codes are all from the the VU+ remote.

....

I got the RM with MAP and RDF files installed. What do I do now?

Don't know what I should do, dont know what I could do.

...

Learned from VU+ remote, ok-button:

Learned Signals
# Protocl Device Sub-Device OBC Hex Cmd EFC Misc
1 MCE 16 82 92 5C 176 T=1


Edit:
11 21 2F 00 DC 07 00 DC 87 E4 05 28 01 C6 02 94
01 C0 01 B8 01 BF 01 B8 00 E1 00 DC 01 BD 00 DC
00 DF 9E 16 65 52 66 66 66 63 36 33 63 66 66 34
65 60



I have always ignored the RDF file for the 7950, just using the one provided by this forum.
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