URC8910 learned keys from JVC dvd not liked by IR401

[ElizabethD]

I posted two files for diagnosis: IRtroubleData.txt

I hope this link will take you there, not really sure how to do this.

[johnsfine]

I posted two files for diagnosis

Did you want help with those, or were you just responding to the request in IR's error message to give use examples of this type of problem learned signal? (We have plenty of examples and that request is obsolete).

Those are very common Panasonic VCR codes and JVC DVD codes, so if you are having problems with the learned signals there are plenty of easier ways to get very complete lists of all the command numbers for those two devices.

[The Robman]

I deleted the screen shots and just left the raw data file, which is all we need.

[ElizabethD]

I'm just starting, so I'm learning and Rob suggested to use learning ir I can't find codes. I actually used learning as a sanity check against codes I found. When I hit the red error in IR the screen said to send data to you without defining data, hence I sent both data and screen shots.

I do need help with with VCR SAP button which IR had trouble decoding as the red message said. I found setup code for 0162 but it assumes the same codes for VCR arrows array in transport mode and in menu mode which don't seem to be the same. SAP is minor problem.

[The Robman]

Have you looked at the advanced code section of my site, here's a link to the list of Panasonic VCR codes:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/codes2/VCR_0162.shtml

This page lists SAP as EFC 206, from the VCR/0162 setup code.

[johnsfine]

I did a quick search for Panasonic SAP in my collection of CCF files. The four CCF files that have that all have it as device 144, subdevice 0, OBC 230 (EFC 206).

[ElizabethD]

Thank you both. Well, bear with me, please. I did look at advanced codes. There is an upper and lower section and I don't really get how to use it. Instructions sounded too advanced for me. BUT, to check advanced codes list vs what I read off the remote, I told my remote to use 0162 setup, and then tried to learn that SAP key when I got the red error screen... which is what started this whole chain in the first place.

[johnsfine]

I found setup code for 0162 but it assumes the same codes for VCR arrows array in transport mode and in menu mode which don't seem to be the same.

On that web page Rob mentioned, the EFC numbers for setup code 0454 are the ones that need subdevice 1. It is probably best to just create a new upgrade for multiple subdevices using the Panasonic Combo2 protocol.

The posted upgrade for the Panasonic VCR NVHD650 seems to be a good example of how to use Panasonic Combo2 as well as a good source of subdevice and command numbers most of which are likely to match your model.

PanaVCR_1666.txt

BUT, to check advanced codes list vs what I read off the remote, I told my remote to use 0162 setup, and then tried to learn that SAP key when I got the red error screen... which is what started this whole chain in the first place.

The best way to check the advanced code is against the device itself.

1) Make sure your TV and VCR are in a mode in which you would be able to see whether the VCR gets the SAP command.

2) Make sure your remote is in a mode with setup code VCR/0162 selected.

3) Review the following steps before doing them, because a pause between steps (long enough to reread instructions) would abort the process.

4) Do a short press of the Set key

5) Key in the first two digits of the EFC number (2 0).

6) Aim the remote at the VCR

7) Press and hold the third digit of the EFC (6) and see what the VCR does.

I told my remote to use 0162 setup, and then tried to learn that SAP key when I got the red error screen.

The setup code has no effect on learning, so you could equally well (or badly) have learned that signal without picking setup code 0162.

That's a really rotten learned signal. Usually I can tell what a bad learn really represents and often why it was learned badly. This one gives me no such hints. Even if I assume it is Panasonic:144.0:230, I can't see how it fits nor how it went wrong.

My only guess is you aimed the two remotes together incorrectly. Put both on a firm flat surface properly aimed before you start to press buttons. Don't try to aim and press while holding both remotes.

[ElizabethD]

Correct. Incorrect aiming and other interference. Panasonic remote nose dives, needed support, and bright sunshine likely did me in. And I didn't see 'ERROR' on the remote. Yesterday, it took 2-3 tries each key, but it worked. Sorry to have been a bother about this.